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Show off your Maher and Grosh knives

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 10:19 pm
by espn77
I've been waiting to post my one and only knife that goes into this forum. Since the proper thread hasn't come up, I'll make my own. Roger will be able to give more information on this knife but the covered backspring is unlike any other whittler I've ever seen. Cool knife IMO
Still has a faint etch

Re: Show off your Maher and Grosh knives

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:36 pm
by supratentorial
Neat whittler. Do you have a photo of the backspring? The 3 blade shown below has a covered back spring. It was made by Miller Bros for Maher & Grosh

Levine's Guide calls these "surveyors", a fancy derivative of the cattle knife. Maher & Grosh called them "Colorado Stock Knives". There are some variations of the pattern from different manufacturers. These knives are longer and skinnier than others. Queen makes one of the shorter and fatter versions of the pattern that were made by companies like Valley Forge and others. I really hope that the long and skinny version of the pattern gets rebirthed by GEC for the new owners of the brand. Nobody currently makes it.
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Re: Show off your Maher and Grosh knives

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:09 am
by espn77
As you can see. Only the very end of the spring protrude from the covered liner.

Re: Show off your Maher and Grosh knives

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:52 am
by supratentorial
Very nice. Thank you for the photo. Here's the covered spring on the 3 blade Maher & Grosh "Colorado Stock Knife". A 2 blade Maher & Grosh "surveyor" and 2 blade Robeson "surveyor" are shown next to it for comparison.
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Re: Show off your Maher and Grosh knives

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:53 am
by peanut740
Keith,your's was made by Miller Brothers also.Remington also had a few knives with covered backsprings. ::tu::

Re: Show off your Maher and Grosh knives

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:58 am
by peanut740
supratentorial wrote:Neat whittler. Do you have a photo of the backspring? The 3 blade shown below has a covered back spring. It was made by Miller Bros for Maher & Grosh

Levine's Guide calls these "surveyors", a fancy derivative of the cattle knife. Maher & Grosh called them "Colorado Stock Knives". There are some variations of the pattern from different manufacturers. These knives are longer and skinnier than others. Queen makes one of the shorter and fatter versions of the pattern that were made by companies like Valley Forge and others. I really hope that the long and skinny version of the pattern gets rebirthed by GEC for the new owners of the brand. Nobody currently makes it.

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I have shown Bill Howard a couple of the Miller Brothers made stockmans.I told him they didn't have to have covered backsprings.Maybe some day. :)

Re: Show off your Maher and Grosh knives

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:03 am
by peanut740
Here's a small equal end ebony pen knife I got in a small collection I picked up. Etched "Country Gentlemen"

Re: Show off your Maher and Grosh knives

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:04 am
by supratentorial
peanut740 wrote:
supratentorial wrote:Neat whittler. Do you have a photo of the backspring? The 3 blade shown below has a covered back spring. It was made by Miller Bros for Maher & Grosh

Levine's Guide calls these "surveyors", a fancy derivative of the cattle knife. Maher & Grosh called them "Colorado Stock Knives". There are some variations of the pattern from different manufacturers. These knives are longer and skinnier than others. Queen makes one of the shorter and fatter versions of the pattern that were made by companies like Valley Forge and others. I really hope that the long and skinny version of the pattern gets rebirthed by GEC for the new owners of the brand. Nobody currently makes it.

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I have shown Bill Howard a couple of the Miller Brothers made stockmans.I told him they didn't have to have covered backsprings.Maybe some day. :)
Sounds good! ::tu::

Re: Show off your Maher and Grosh knives

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:05 am
by espn77
peanut740 wrote:Keith,your's was made by Miller Brothers also.Remington also had a few knives with covered backsprings. ::tu::
Your correct, the R100A has a covered back spring. I'm looking at them both now and they function exactly the same.

Re: Show off your Maher and Grosh knives

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:14 am
by peanut740
This is the best Colorado Stock Knife I have.

Re: Show off your Maher and Grosh knives

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:32 am
by supratentorial
Here's some info from Bernard Levine when I asked him about captive springs on Maher & Grosh knives....
The reason for a closed back with captive springs is to simplify assembly.
Also, the center spring rivet moves up and down with the spring, and will break the handle covers if they are on too tight. Eliminating that center rivet removes that weakness.

Over the years there were many patents for closed back pocketknives, with and without captive springs.
Remington 'Dollar' knives are junior size stock knives with the whole frame and bolsters made in one piece, stamped and folded up.

They are marked PAT APPLD FOR, but Remington never did get a patent for this... at least not that anyone has found yet.

Re: Show off your Maher and Grosh knives

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:37 am
by espn77
Thanks for sharing that.

Re: Show off your Maher and Grosh knives

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:54 am
by peanut740
Keith, I believe I've seen a Remington Scouts knife with covered backsprings.

Re: Show off your Maher and Grosh knives

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 2:11 am
by espn77
Yes there is one. Pretty rare.

Re: Show off your Maher and Grosh knives

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:56 pm
by peanut740
Here are all the ebony folding hunter blade combinations you could get.I believe these are all Ulster made knives.