Marble Ideal Slag Knife Info

Webster Marble formed Gladstone Mfg. Co. in 1892. That company created the first folding Axe in 1893 which lead to the incorporation of Marble's Safety Axe Co. in 1898. The company became Marble Arms & Mfg. Co. in 1911 & enjoyed years of success until succumbing to a shut down of production in 1974. The brand was brought back to life in 1994 & enjoyed a grand rejuvenation that later gave way to another shutdown in 2009. Many great knives & tools were crafted over the company's storied history.
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Marble Ideal Slag Knife Info

Postby Larry1 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:51 pm

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I was wondering if anyone can shed any information regarding this knife. Does it have a specific name and how old it might be. Also, how would one go about removing the rust on the blade. Thank you in advance.
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Re: Marble Ideal Slag Knife Info

Postby btrwtr » Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:45 pm

Your knife looks to be very early model Marble's Ideal. Can you tell us how the knife is marked? I suspect it is possibly a W.L. Marble stamp which would make it even more desirable than an M.S.A. stamping, c. 1900. What is the blade length?
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Re: Marble Ideal Slag Knife Info

Postby Larry1 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:50 pm

The blade is 5 1/2" long. Any suggestions on how to remove the rust. If I am going to sell this knife does cleaning the blade diminish its value. Thank you for your reply.

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Re: Marble Ideal Slag Knife Info

Postby 1967redrider » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:21 pm

Using these two pictures for illustration, the M.S.A. Co. tang stamp is older (1903-1918 roughly). The Marbles "Rollercoaster" stamp denotes the age of a knife depending on how the "A" in MARBLES is crossed (hooks to the right for 1918-1925, hooks to the left for 1925 on). There's better information on this in Dunathan's The Encyclopedia of MARBLE'S Knives & Sporting Collectibles if you can pick up a copy. I hope this at least helps a little but you need to get through the rust to see if you can find any stamp first.
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Re: Marble Ideal Slag Knife Info

Postby Larry1 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:08 pm

Thank you for the information as its most helpful.

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Re: Marble Ideal Slag Knife Info

Postby Gunsil » Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:44 pm

I would not use anything stronger than light oil and 0000 steel wool to remove the rust. Let it soak a while in the light oil (gun or sewing machine oil) and then rub it with the steel wool. Repeat as necessary. There are some, myself included who do not think the business about which way the slash on the A goes regarding dating the knives is correct. It looks like the spacers and guard on your knife are nickel silver instead of brass?? If this is the case it is a very scarce knife albeit not in the best condition. Please post a good photo of the maker's mark stamped on the ricasso (flat area right ahead of the guard).

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Re: Marble Ideal Slag Knife Info

Postby Larry1 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:23 pm

Is naval jelly safe to use and thank you for the correct steel wool to use.

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Re: Marble Ideal Slag Knife Info

Postby Gunsil » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:39 pm

NO, NEVER use naval jelly it removes more than just the rust. If you try to make the knife shiny you will kill value. If you are not experienced cleaning steel on an antique knife and you are looking to sell it it may be better to sell it as is and let the buyer decide if and how they would clean it. Oil and 0000 steel wool will remove the rust but not make the blade shiny and not remove any solid metal because the steel in steel wool is softer than the steel in the knife. So are the spacers and guard brass or nickel?? Photo of the stamp??


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