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Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 6:12 pm
by Sharpnshinyknives
Looks like another “rush” is coming on Wednesday for these. I will be putting on my shoulder pads and helmet to get right in there.

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:18 pm
by Onearmbladejunkie
Get signed up at KnivesShipFree and be ready at 4pm 7/22/2019 for the Northwoods Signal Jack.

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:20 pm
by kootenay joe
Why ?
Perhaps there is a business case to be made for buying any Northwoods because they can be sold for a profit, usually.
But for collectors this Northwoods Signal Jack is just a GEC #93 with a saber ground blade instead of a flat ground one. Unless there are good natural handle choices i don't see this as a particularly significant knife.
The Waynorth Cutlery Lambsfoot is significantly different from the regular #93 and is well worth buying. Many people think this Lambsfoot is the best of all the knives made on the 93 frame.
Unfortunately Northwoods has 'slipped'. For the last few years the Northwoods knives have been more like a re-branded GEC rather than a unique and desirable offering. The 'special' Northwoods are those from the early days of KSF ownership.
Waynorth Cutlery continues to hit home runs every time. I think Waynorth has now replaced Northwoods as the GEC made knife that you really want to get.
kj

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:06 pm
by Beavertail
I'll just wait for my email from Rough Ryder telling about their newest release.
At least I know I'll be able to get one. :mrgreen:

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:57 am
by cody6268
Personally, given the cost of these, I'll stick with my old Taylor's Eye Witness 9cm Lambsfoot. For a fraction of what the GEC, and definitely the Northwoods, I can ditch the old shrunken (and paint spattered) synthetic on the Eye Witness for some of the nicer choices on the GECs.

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:08 pm
by Ivoryman
kootenay joe wrote:Why ?
Perhaps there is a business case to be made for buying any Northwoods because they can be sold for a profit, usually.
But for collectors this Northwoods Signal Jack is just a GEC #93 with a saber ground blade instead of a flat ground one. Unless there are good natural handle choices i don't see this as a particularly significant knife.
The Waynorth Cutlery Lambsfoot is significantly different from the regular #93 and is well worth buying. Many people think this Lambsfoot is the best of all the knives made on the 93 frame.
Unfortunately Northwoods has 'slipped'. For the last few years the Northwoods knives have been more like a re-branded GEC rather than a unique and desirable offering. The 'special' Northwoods are those from the early days of KSF ownership.
Waynorth Cutlery continues to hit home runs every time. I think Waynorth has now replaced Northwoods as the GEC made knife that you really want to get.
kj

Are you jerking our chain? A business case for buying Northwoods? You are the prime example of what you quesion in others since you buy GEC and sell them for double or tripple what you paid for them, and then you ask if it's a business case. Take a look in the mirror if you wnat to see why people buy Northwoods. Weren't you the guy who recently sold some GEC Northwoods for double or tripple what you paid? It's sad you do the same thing that you question others for doing and then act like you don't get it or do it. People like Northwoods better than run of the mill GEC. Same reason you yourself bought GEC instead of the GEC 15 that it was patterned off. Unbelievable KJ, you buy them too and sell them. You already know and it's sad you pose this question like you don't know when you are a prime example of the very thing you question. Maybe you should examine your own behavior and you'll find the answer to your "why"? Maybe. Maybe not.

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:17 pm
by Onearmbladejunkie
Five different Northwoods #93 Signal Jack choices : Red Linen Micarta (I thought it was bloodwood) , Burnt Sienna jigged bone , appaloosa bone , cocobolo , and mammoth ivory
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Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:31 pm
by gsmith7158
Here are a few of the mammoth Signal Jack's that will be sold tomorrow. Looks pretty good. ::drool::

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:36 pm
by Sharpnshinyknives
Ivoryman wrote:
kootenay joe wrote:Why ?
Perhaps there is a business case to be made for buying any Northwoods because they can be sold for a profit, usually.
But for collectors this Northwoods Signal Jack is just a GEC #93 with a saber ground blade instead of a flat ground one. Unless there are good natural handle choices i don't see this as a particularly significant knife.
The Waynorth Cutlery Lambsfoot is significantly different from the regular #93 and is well worth buying. Many people think this Lambsfoot is the best of all the knives made on the 93 frame.
Unfortunately Northwoods has 'slipped'. For the last few years the Northwoods knives have been more like a re-branded GEC rather than a unique and desirable offering. The 'special' Northwoods are those from the early days of KSF ownership.
Waynorth Cutlery continues to hit home runs every time. I think Waynorth has now replaced Northwoods as the GEC made knife that you really want to get.
kj

Are you jerking our chain? A business case for buying Northwoods? You are the prime example of what you quesion in others since you buy GEC and sell them for double or tripple what you paid for them, and then you ask if it's a business case. Take a look in the mirror if you wnat to see why people buy Northwoods. Weren't you the guy who recently sold some GEC Northwoods for double or tripple what you paid? It's sad you do the same thing that you question others for doing and then act like you don't get it or do it. People like Northwoods better than run of the mill GEC. Same reason you yourself bought GEC instead of the GEC 15 that it was patterned off. Unbelievable KJ, you buy them too and sell them. You already know and it's sad you pose this question like you don't know when you are a prime example of the very thing you question. Maybe you should examine your own behavior and you'll find the answer to your "why"? Maybe. Maybe not.
I have never seen KJ flipping knives. I have bought many from him and I have encouraged him to ask for more than he does. He has always been more than fair in what he asks and I don’t think he has ever asked for more than any knife is worth.
I on the other hand do view this as both a collecting hobby and a chance to make a profit when I am fortunate enough to get my hands on GEC knives that are hot. Coming from a background of being a stock broker, I know how rare it is to get a chance to buy low and sell high so quickly. It doesn’t happen much in the investment world, as odd as that may seem. So for me, part of the fun is making a profit. Who knows when the steam will run out of this GEC juggernaut?
Having dealt with kj so much, I don’t think your statements and questions are quite accurate.

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:30 pm
by Ivoryman
Well you haven't been around as many years on AAPK as some of us have. We've seen this before ad naseum and all you have to do is go back through the threads and see for yourself if you wish. What is a knife worth? What's your objective formula for determining it? Can you give an objective answer or only a subjective opinion? But here's a fact. A knife is worth what people are willing to pay. And if you think double or triple what a knife sold for at retail isn't making a huge profit or gouging, then that's your opinion. But I've seen the Northwoods you speak about, and the flipping price, and I've seen what he asks and I've seen the huge profit involved. If you deny this, I can show you some PM's that contradict the premise, and that's a fact, not an opinion. I have it in writing. And there's nothing wrong with that. But to ask why other people buy Northwoods, or why they like them while the person buys them themselves, then sells them for huge profits and then throws shade on Northwoods, the company that gave them that chance, is the height of disingenuousness and hypocrisy. And people who buy Northwoods, then sell for two or three hundred percent profit while they ask why other people buy them, is ridiculous, inconsistent, and less than the truth. It's hypocrisy, and sadly speaking out of both sides of their mouth. You can't have it both ways and be consistent. If you buy Northwoods, you shouldn't question other people who do the same thing. If you dish on Northwoods while buying and selling them for profit is nothing but being a parasite on the Northwoods/knives ship free company and brand. Start your own brand and make a better knife before you dish on Northwoods. Name another knife you can buy and sell for 2-3-400% profit when you did nothing to produce or design or help build the brand or work to that end? Show me another knife, any knife, Benchmade, Chris Reeves, Case Tony Bose, Queen, A.G. Russell, Kershaw, or any Custom.... or any other brand that you can buy and sell for 2-400% profit? Show me another company like Northwoods that has GEC do their knives differently that are more popular than GEC themselves? Northwoods deserves praise and appreciation for what they make available to all their customers when there is nothing else on the market who does knives their way. They made GEC make a better knife than even GEC did on their own. I have many Northwoods that are superior to the GEC pattern they used. Derrick Bohn got GEC to build a different, better knife that are more in demand than GEC's own brand. The price reflects it. RIP Derrick Bohn and long live Northwoods for all they do. And thanks for letting all the flippers make so much profit on your knives after doing nothing themselves and then question the brand and other people who buy them.

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:23 am
by kootenay joe
Ivoryman, what's going on for you ? I don't understand the last 2 posts you made. I do not flip knives. Never, not even once.
I have sold some of my GEC's after owning them a few years. The prices i ask are almost always on the low side. What i sell all happens here on AAPK so it can be checked but you won't find any flips because there aren't any.
So what is going on ? Did you confuse me with someone else ?
I think an apology is in order here as your claims about me are simply wrong. My reputation as one who is always fair in all my dealings is important to me.
kj

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:01 am
by QTCut5
Oh man...that mammoth sure is pretty.

Good luck to anyone who's going to try to get one. My advice: do not blink; I bet they'll sell out in about 2.2 seconds.

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:15 am
by kootenay joe
I am at my bush place with slowest internet connection in North America. I don't stand a chance. Fastest i could get to KSF and check out would be 5 minutes.
Those are very fine looking mammoth handles. I bet there will be 10 buyers for every mammoth knife who all land on KSF within a few seconds of start time. Those with fastest computer connection will score. The popularity of a mammoth handled GEC knife far outstrips supply.
I hope some of our AAPK'ers score and then of course post pics for the rest of us to see.
kj

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:34 am
by eveled
I took KJ’s post differently. He was being critical of the knife. Saying the new offering is not as unique or desirable as the earlier offerings.

Saying other than the potential to flip it why would you buy this knife? It’s just not that special.

Maybe I read it wrong ?

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:46 pm
by gsmith7158
eveled wrote:I took KJ’s post differently. He was being critical of the knife. Saying the new offering is not as unique or desirable as the earlier offerings.

Saying other than the potential to flip it why would you buy this knife? It’s just not that special.

Maybe I read it wrong ?
That's the way I read it and I have had many dealings with with Roland in every one I always felt satisfied that buyer and seller left very satisfied.
Iman must be hot where you are.

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:16 pm
by wlf
Roland always undersells himself. I imagine he is on many here’s alert when posting in the for sales. If he could, he would probably would not sell any knives he’s ever owned.

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:17 pm
by gsmith7158
Sold out in 4 minutes. Somebody likes em. :D

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:18 pm
by Doc B
Got a red micarta and a cocobolo on the way.

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:25 pm
by Sharpnshinyknives
That was the smoothest I’ve ever seen on these this time. I was able to get 3, Appaloosa bone, Jigged bone and Cocobolo. At 224 on the mammoth ivory, I passed on those. I’m not buying mammoth any more. Won’t be able to sell them someday soon and that warns me off.

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:46 pm
by gsmith7158
Here's mine! Not the fanciest of the lot but I'll take it. ::super_happy::

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:25 pm
by JohnR
Nice Greg, I only wanted the mammoth and ended up with a decent one after having a very nice blue one snatched from the cart.

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:17 pm
by FarSide
Not sure how I ended up with one after losing a little time trying to put the first one in the cart. Even somehow managed to look for one that I liked. It all happened so fast. I think everyone of them where gone in less than 5 minutes. Absolute crazy, but I finally have a Mammoth Nothwoods :D
This pattern certainly has been very popular. Congrats to those who managed to score one.
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Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:27 pm
by robbobus
Kootenay Joe ought to charge more. I have exchanged many PMS and emails over the years, Roland is one of the more well thought out individuals on here. If you pay attention to the wts board, he generally sells at or below cost. He maintains his preference for the Esky, Willamette, Norfolk level of finish with regards to Northwoods knives. Good for him, he is entitled to his opinion. An apology is most definitely in order. This is the friendly knife forum.

This is my Signal Jack.
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Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:44 pm
by FarSide
A lot of variety in the Mammoth. Something for everyone's taste. Good to see some of those here managed to get one. Probably my last Northwood's. I have a lot of nice knives that need to be used, and not sit in a safe. However contentment is a tough foe that I'm always going up against :)

Re: Northwoods Signal Jack

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:46 pm
by kootenay joe
Thanks for your kind words guys. Time to move on.
I was lucky today. Power was out until about 30 minutes ago so i could not even try to participate. Lucky because it saved me from getting frustrated by slow internet speeds (about 60 seconds per mouse click).
Those Mammoths look GREAT ! Congratulations on your dexterity.
And Mark, you passed on the mammoth ! ::uc:: I would have bought it from you and i'm sure there are others here who would also want it. Whatever, it's only a knife, sob, sob ::tear::
kj