Not my favorite pattern

Winchester entered the knife market as a manufacturer in 1919 by acquiring two existing knife companies; Eagle Knife Co. of Connecticut & Napanoch Knife Co. of New York. Winchester stepped away from the market in 1942 to focus on war related manufactured products, but re-entered in the late 1980s by licensing its name to Blue Grass Cutlery. Blue Grass had high quality knives made by Queen Cutlery that featured the Winchester brand name for a handful of years until the license arrangement ran its course. Winchester eventually started licensing to other companies & now you will find the brand name used by several knife manufacturers by way of license agreements.
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Not my favorite pattern

Post by OSCAR » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:41 pm

Came across a knife today that I had to get. While I have no liking for sunfish, I had to buy this one. An NOS Winchester. Rogers bone scales. Originally purchased at Queen factory bankruptcy auction, so reasonable assumption the Queen mad it for them and it never got delivered.
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Re: Not my favorite pattern

Post by Steve Warden » Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:45 pm

Nice knife!
That's what separates us accumulators from you collectors.
I'm not a fan of the sunfish/toenail, either. I wouldn't have bought it no matter the value.
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Re: Not my favorite pattern

Post by OSCAR » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:10 pm

Steve: I agree. That pattern is useless and doesn’t appeal to me. But I do love the scales. It’s the only thing that pattern is good for. It shows off great scales. Even then I had to think about it a lot. NOS in box, Rogers bone,made by Queen. I hate the sunfish/toenail but I couldn’t let this one go.
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Re: Not my favorite pattern

Post by doglegg » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:24 pm

I'm glad you are over coming your prejudice. I'm not a lover of them either but there are some, like that one that would be hard to pass up. Great addition. ::tu::

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Re: Not my favorite pattern

Post by OSCAR » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:36 pm

Thanks Doglegg. I really like this one but it may be another 30 years until I see another I cannot live without. :)
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Re: Not my favorite pattern

Post by FRJ » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:37 pm

OSCAR wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:10 pm
That pattern is useless and doesn’t appeal to me. But I do love the scales. It’s the only thing that pattern is good for.----------------
I hate the sunfish/toenail but I couldn’t let this one go.
::woot:: :lol:

I carry this time honored old pattern from time to time in some old knives I have.
I don't find them useless and as flat as they are they carry quite conveniently.
I'm quite proud of the old ones I have and very happy to pack them. ::nod::

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Re: Not my favorite pattern

Post by tongueriver » Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:48 pm

I guess I have a mostly unrelated question. Why do you call it Rogers bone? I guess people have started doing this for some reason, but the Rogers Bone Company has not made bone handles for knives for decades, and none of this stuff I have been seeing remotely resembles Rogers Bone. Just curious. Are some of the cutlery companies really calling it that? They did make more than one pattern of jigging and color back in the day, but none of it looked like this (I don't think).

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Re: Not my favorite pattern

Post by OSCAR » Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:21 pm

Toungueriver, I could be wrong but both the color, and the jigging looks very much like Rogers. I believe Rogers bone company went out of business in the 60’s. It is possible that knife companies purchased large amounts of scales, and could produce knives with these handles for years later.
I may be wrong about it being Rogers but it looks like it may be. If I am mistaken, it still is a beautiful handle on this one. I like the Winterbottom better than any, but it’s getting hard to find and pricey when you find it.
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Re: Not my favorite pattern

Post by Beavertail » Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:21 pm

My Grandfather always carried a sunfish,He carried it in His overall bib pocket.
I still have His last sunfish, and carry it in My overall bib pocket.
They are a very handy knife. ::tu::
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Re: Not my favorite pattern

Post by OSCAR » Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:27 pm

The Winchester is really too nice for an EDC. Now, after reading some of the comments, I may have to buy a cheaper one to try it out as an EDC. I never thought of a sunfish as a good pattern for edc, but I am eager to give it a try.
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Re: Not my favorite pattern

Post by 1967redrider » Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:50 pm

Strange, I thought I replied to this post with a link to the Winchester forum? ::hmm::
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Re: Not my favorite pattern

Post by stockman » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:33 pm

I like the pattern, I have four old Sun Fish. I usually call them Toe Nails. I don't think the original Winchester Company ever made a Sun Fish. I've not seen one in person or a picture.

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Re: Not my favorite pattern

Post by OSCAR » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:07 pm

Harold:
The dealer I purchased it from bought several cases of the same knife at the Queen bankruptcy auction in Pennsylvania. I presume that Queen made them for Winchester. Also, the really heavy back spring and very loud snap is typical of a Queen made knife. Oscar
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Re: Not my favorite pattern

Post by WillyCamaro » Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:54 am

Really great example you got there Oscar, one of my favorite patterns ( :mrgreen: ::poke:: ). To bad the old pocket bookie can't afford one right now, to many other knives on the list :roll: . But I "swear" i'll pick me up one, one of these days.
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Re: Not my favorite pattern

Post by carrmillus » Thu Oct 01, 2020 7:44 pm

OSCAR wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:10 pm
Steve: I agree. That pattern is useless and doesn’t appeal to me. But I do love the scales. It’s the only thing that pattern is good for. It shows off great scales. Even then I had to think about it a lot. NOS in box, Rogers bone,made by Queen. I hate the sunfish/toenail but I couldn’t let this one go.
..my grandfather used to whittle with a Camillus sunfish, but he was so big it fit his hands perfectly!!..if I only knew where it was today???............... ::shrug:: ...............

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