Winchester Sowbelly

Winchester entered the knife market as a manufacturer in 1919 by acquiring two existing knife companies; Eagle Knife Co. of Connecticut & Napanoch Knife Co. of New York. Winchester stepped away from the market in 1942 to focus on war related manufactured products, but re-entered in the late 1980s by licensing its name to Blue Grass Cutlery. Blue Grass had high quality knives made by Queen Cutlery that featured the Winchester brand name for a handful of years until the license arrangement ran its course. Winchester eventually started licensing to other companies & now you will find the brand name used by several knife manufacturers by way of license agreements.
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Winchester Sowbelly

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I need help if anyone can help me confirm if this is a fake or legit? There is a spot on one of the tangs has what looks as a letter above Winchester on one of the tangs. The blades if they are sharpened a lot or not if someone may happen to know. I know some of the Winchester knives I’ve seen have more of a kick on the blades and appear be used. The main is only one looks used to me but could be wrong please help and hope to hear the thoughts.
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Re: Winchester Sowbelly

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I could not find a "sow belly" pattern in either of my original Winchester catalogs. That doesn't mean they didn't make one. However, your knife resembles one of the fake Remington "sow belly" knives (especially if you think the blades are stainless steel).
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98src wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:25 pm I could not find a "sow belly" pattern in either of my original Winchester catalogs. That doesn't mean they didn't make one. However, your knife resembles one of the fake Remington "sow belly" knives (especially if you think the blades are stainless steel).
I had no idea if they are stainless or not. Someone else told me appears be stainless. So if they never used stainless and if they are that makes me think more on fake side of so and also if you don’t see sowbelly. I would had thought knowing the made modern 3 blade 4 & 5 I had thought those were reproduction knives. Thank you! ::handshake:: also it isn’t my knife as yet just trying to confirm first
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The pattern number is cold stamped in with individual letter/number punches indicating knife is a fake or at least a heavily messed with knife.
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Gunsil wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 12:58 am The pattern number is cold stamped in with individual letter/number punches indicating knife is a fake or at least a heavily messed with knife.
Thank you very much Gunsil ::handshake::
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The grind line is also upswept near the back of the tang on all of the blades. That is often a sign that the tang has been ground down (to remove an original tang stamp), and restamped.
It isn't proof, but added with the other evidence it makes me think that it might be a counterfeit.
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Re: Winchester Sowbelly

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I don't think the pattern number is a Winchester number. All of the ones I see are just 4 digit numbers.
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::hmm:: The one pivot pin looks suspicious . . .
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I sent pictures of three Cattaraugus sowbelly knives to show some of the company’s made them. Maybe Winchester did not. What happened to my pictures?
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The op knife is counterfeit.
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Jacknifeben wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:19 pm I sent pictures of three Cattaraugus sowbelly knives to show some of the company’s made them. Maybe Winchester did not. What happened to my pictures?
Wrong thread. The OP has two different threads going, on the same knife- it’s confusing. You put them here https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... 7#p1042857. But yours are not sowbellies, at least not to my eye. They look like serpentine patterns (slight S shape). Sowbellies have more of a U shape - no recurve.

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