Who's into S & M?

Schatt & Morgan knives were first manufacturer back in 1890. The Queen Cutlery company made most of the more recent examples, but Schatt had its own plant in its earlier years that cranked out the oldies. There is no shortage of fantastic Schatt & Morgan knives in existance that have been made over the brand's long & storied history.
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Re: Who's into S & M?

Post by knowtracks » Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:47 pm

My guess is that this particular knife was put together close to the end of things. I've never seen a S&M knife or a Queen, for that matter, with the lanyard hole that close to the edge. Why the queen shield is anyone's guess..... Perhaps that's what they had left or it fit in the stag better?
But it sure is beautiful stag and I love the Warncliffe!


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Re: Who's into S & M?

Post by QTCut5 » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:35 pm

knowtracks wrote:
Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:47 pm
My guess is that this particular knife was put together close to the end of things. I've never seen a S&M knife or a Queen, for that matter, with the lanyard hole that close to the edge. Why the queen shield is anyone's guess..... Perhaps that's what they had left or it fit in the stag better?
But it sure is beautiful stag and I love the Warncliffe!


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That was my thought, too, Dave...cobbled together at the factory in a desperate mad scramble to use up stock before the final fire sale. And that lanyard hole really threw me for a loop, as well; very unusual placement... ::hmm:: ...looks like a last-minute rush job IMO...maybe it's not even factory done?? ::shrug:: The blade also seems a bit short for the frame, as if it was not specifically intended to go on this pattern (I have no idea what the pattern number is for this knife...it's similar to a Swaybelly/Swayback pattern #01...but not exactly the same.) Steel liners & pins.

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Re: Who's into S & M?

Post by doglegg » Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:15 pm

Just an unusual birth mark that doesn't distract at all. Love those handles. ::tu::

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Re: Who's into S & M?

Post by knowtracks » Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:45 pm

Didn't notice it before you posted these new pics Q but they put the lanyard hole thru the bed as opposed to the backspring like every other lanyard hole I've ever seen!
Probably is a good thing the blade seems a little short!



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Re: Who's into S & M?

Post by QTCut5 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:40 am

This S&M File & Wire Series #05 Kentucky Shiner is the biggest folder in my collection.
I'm so used to handling knives in the 3½" - 4" range that at 5 5/16" closed, 9 7/16" OAL, this monster feels almost like a short sword!
Not sure what type of wood the handle is but I really like the grain & color. ::nod::
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Re: Who's into S & M?

Post by Quick Steel » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:11 am

Q, At a guess, that beautiful wood might be rosewood. My first thought was actually mahogany which seems a remote possibility. I don't know if that wood has ever been used on a knife. If you ever find the answer, kindly share it.

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Re: Who's into S & M?

Post by doglegg » Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:02 pm

Big and beautiful Q. ::nod::

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Re: Who's into S & M?

Post by QTCut5 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:25 am

Quick Steel wrote:
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Q, At a guess, that beautiful wood might be rosewood.
I do believe you are probably correct, Garry. I've never been too good at identifying different types of wood (well...other than Ebony, perhaps), but I laid this Kentucky Shiner next to several other wood handled knives I own (that I know what the wood is) and it's closer to Rosewood than any of the other woods S&M commonly used for knife handles such as Walnut, Cocobolo, Zebra Wood.


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Re: Who's into S & M?

Post by Quick Steel » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:54 am

Q, I looked up wood samples on google and rosewood came closest. In any event, I think that is a superlative looking knife. A statement I originally made a few years ago and still hold to is that "When S&M gets it right, they get it really right."

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Re: Who's into S & M?

Post by Sharpnshinyknives » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:10 pm

Been behind posting knives for my personal collection. Got this Railsplitter in a couple of weeks ago. Some of the nicest Winterbottom bone I’ve ever seen on a S&M, just had to have it.
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Re: Who's into S & M?

Post by 1967redrider » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:26 pm

Wow, that's nice, Mark. ::tu::
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Re: Who's into S & M?

Post by Quick Steel » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:46 pm

What a beautiful knife. The bone is wonderful.

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Re: Who's into S & M?

Post by edge213 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:59 am

Sharpnshinyknives wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:10 pm
Been behind posting knives for my personal collection. Got this Railsplitter in a couple of weeks ago. Some of the nicest Winterbottom bone I’ve ever seen on a S&M, just had to have it.
Beautiful knife.
The Queen Railsplitter is one of my favorite patterns. I have 3 of them.
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Re: Who's into S & M?

Post by Sharpnshinyknives » Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:14 am

Thank you Randy, Garry and David. Glad you agree. I was smitten when I saw it.
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