Schatt and Morgan, Titusville Pa. 1903 - 1933

Schatt & Morgan knives were first manufacturer back in 1890. The Queen Cutlery company made most of the more recent examples, but Schatt had its own plant in its earlier years that cranked out the oldies. There is no shortage of fantastic Schatt & Morgan knives in existance that have been made over the brand's long & storied history.
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Thanks cudgee! Than one is as close to pristine as any T-ville Schatt that I've ever seen!
Week or so back Lloyd/Duffer posted his Beautiful Lockback and Advertising S&M's, and it got me to thinkin........ :roll:
One of the things that was so 8) 8) 8) to me was that Queen bought Schatt and Morgan lock, stock and barrel. So that when, under Bill Howard's hand, Queen decided to make the Annual Reproduction or Keystone Series and then the File and Wire Series, they were making these old S&M patterns with the same old original machinery, set-ups, tooling and work benches. Making the same exact pocket cutlery, in the same exact way, at the same exact work stations as they were made dang near a 100 yrs ago. Still basically made by hand by skilled cutlers. I really hated to see Queen go down :x so much American cutlery history.
Anyway....... that was the long way around the barn for this comparison of the Original and the F&W Lockbacks.
I expect everyone reading this knows it's a big knife @ 5 1/2" and the lock release is positioned way closer to the pivot than most lockbacks.
Just the bottom bolster and subtle differences between the two. The rat tail size and where the cut swedge stops. The pull placement and length, pin locations, thickness of the blade and spring are exactly the same.
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Mighty fine Dave ::tu:: ::tu:: Nice write up too!
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Great comparison, Dave. Beautiful knives, the old one more so. ::tu:: ::tu::
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knowtracks wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:52 am I really hated to see Queen go down :x so much American cutlery history.
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Ditto that...a very sad day indeed. Although, unfortunately, the quality under the DFC stamped S&Ms took a nose dive compared to the Keystone and File & Wire series. At best it was was so hit-or-miss you never knew exactly what you were getting unless you could hold and examine the knife in person before purchasing.

In contrast, the Tuna Valley brand, which is owned by the Daniels family, produces top-notch, semi-custom quality knives. I don't understand why they couldn't have kept Queen alive by employing the same strategy. ::undecided:: :?
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Thank You Lloyd and Danno! :) I have been remiss in this thread here lately :roll:
A lockback with saber clip, @ 4 1/2" closed some decent jigged bone...
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knowtracks wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:34 pm Thank You Lloyd and Danno! :) I have been remiss in this thread here lately :roll:
A lockback with saber clip, @ 4 1/2" closed some decent jigged bone...
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knowtracks wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:34 pm Thank You Lloyd and Danno! :) I have been remiss in this thread here lately :roll:
A lockback with saber clip, @ 4 1/2" closed some decent jigged bone...
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Beauuuuuuuuuty Dave, wow, what a gem, great collection you have and great seeing them posted so I can drool on them and dream of what else there is out there. Kudos.
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Thank You edge213 and Ivoryman! :D
Another good sized single blade @ 4 1/8" closed. Fancy "rope" designed bolster with bomb shield. Very nice jigged bone that unfortunately has a chip and crack on the pile side @ the spring pivot pin. ::dang::
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Very lovely old knife. ::nod::
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Two more very nice ones, Dave. ::tu:: ::tu:: I always like a sabre ground blade.
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Thank You doglegg and Danno!! :)
So Danno My Friend you like the saber, here's a big in for you! :mrgreen:
Most all these latest knives came from David Clark's collection! Including this one.
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That is a big beauty, Dave! ::tu:: Interesting matchstriker pull. Doesn't appear to be much space between the top of the teeth and the top of the pull?
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knowtracks wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:08 am Thank You doglegg and Danno!! :)
So Danno My Friend you like the saber, here's a big in for you! :mrgreen:
Most all these latest knives came from David Clark's collection! Including this one.
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Thank You edge213 and danno! ::tu:: The pull does look that way in the photo Dan but there is room enough for your nail but this thing is a bear to open and snaps like an old turtle!! :shock:
Another single saber blade from David Clark's collection. At 4 1/2" closed, this one sports a hounds tooth shield and more of a pick bone jig but a little deeper than regular pick bone..... if that makes any sense :roll:
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knowtracks wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:18 pm Thank You edge213 and danno! ::tu:: The pull does look that way in the photo Dan but there is room enough for your nail but this thing is a bear to open and snaps like an old turtle!! :shock:
Another single saber blade from David Clark's collection. At 4 1/2" closed, this one sports a hounds tooth shield and more of a pick bone jig but a little deeper than regular pick bone..... if that makes any sense :roll:
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Wow those are some great bones, love the color and jigging, your collection is something else. Amaaaaaaaazing.
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knowtracks wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:18 pm Thank You edge213 and danno! ::tu:: The pull does look that way in the photo Dan but there is room enough for your nail but this thing is a bear to open and snaps like an old turtle!! :shock:
Another single saber blade from David Clark's collection. At 4 1/2" closed, this one sports a hounds tooth shield and more of a pick bone jig but a little deeper than regular pick bone..... if that makes any sense :roll:
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That one has a lot going for it, bone, bolster, shield and a sabre ground blade! ::tu::
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Thank You edge213 and danno! :) I didn't think about that knife having a copperhead bolster Dan! It makes for a sunk joint which helps out on pocket wear with it being a somewhat larger pocketknife.
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knowtracks wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 1:18 am Thank You edge213 and danno! :) I didn't think about that knife having a copperhead bolster Dan! It makes for a sunk joint which helps out on pocket wear with it being a somewhat larger pocketknife.
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Thank You edge213! :D
A little @ 3" closed split backspring with tapered wedge sheepsfoot whittler. Some nice jigged bone and rat tailed bolsters!
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What a really wonderful knife!, The bones, the blades. Wow. ::nod:: ::nod::
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What doglegg said. ::tu:: I really like congress knives configured as whittlers and jacks.
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Thank You doglegg and danno!!
I don't believe I've posted this scout before... but if I have please bare with me! :roll:
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knowtracks wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 5:25 pm Thank You edge213! :D
A little @ 3" closed split backspring with tapered wedge sheepsfoot whittler. Some nice jigged bone and rat tailed bolsters!
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Love, LOVE, love that one. Thanks for showing all these. I didn't realize what a fan I was of old S&M until you started posting. Now I'm a lover of them, browse the ones I see, and look for others. You're like an S&M museum. Hats off to you for your collection of them and showing them and the photography, and for getting me interested in the brand. Keep them coming, loved checking out every one you've posted. And don't worry about posting twice like that Boy Scout. It's out pleasure. Wow, what a Boy Scout knife. ::not_worthy::
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Might as well post this one in this thread too....
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Miller Bro's wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:47 pm A big beefy knife....

I know you posted this knife back on Page 6, but any info on the copper bail? I have a Keen Kutter with a copper bail and the same kind of opener, I think it might have been made for the Canadian military/navy.
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