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Randy, I'm eager to see it in person.
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kootenay joe wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:35 pm I have at least 200 'older' RR knives with bone, Stag, pearl and other handle materials in many different patterns. If anyone wants to buy some of these please contact me.
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How about a buck a piece?? ::groove:: ::groove::
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edge213 wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:55 am
kootenay joe wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 8:35 pm I have at least 200 'older' RR knives with bone, Stag, pearl and other handle materials in many different patterns. If anyone wants to buy some of these please contact me.
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How about a buck a piece?? ::groove:: ::groove::
I think many of the older ones are the best RR's of all and they are no longer available from dealers. The quality control is as good as it gets. Not even one knife has any sort of issue. I have used a few of my RR's and they edge hold amazing well. They are good knives and very attractive. I bought my first ones in 2007.
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Came fast and showed up today in spite of the "holiday" yesterday. Heavy sucker.
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jerryd6818 wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:51 pm Came fast and showed up today in spite of the "holiday" yesterday. Heavy sucker.
Great looking trapper Jerry ::tu::
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jerryd6818 wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:51 pm Came fast and showed up today in spite of the "holiday" yesterday. Heavy sucker.
Nice knife Jerry! ::tu:: Why do you think the Canadian "holiday" Thanksgiving yesterday would affect business and deliveries in the US, ::shrug:: you guys don't celebrate Thanksgiving until November? 8)
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Madmarco wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:56 pm Why do you think the Canadian "holiday" Thanksgiving yesterday would affect business and deliveries in the US, ::shrug:: you guys don't celebrate Thanksgiving until November? 8)
Well, because October 11th is also Columbus Day here in the States. Not a big holiday but it is a postal holiday.
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jerryd6818 wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:31 pm
Madmarco wrote: Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:56 pm Why do you think the Canadian "holiday" Thanksgiving yesterday would affect business and deliveries in the US, ::shrug:: you guys don't celebrate Thanksgiving until November? 8)
Well, because October 11th is also Columbus Day here in the States. Not a big holiday but it is a postal holiday.
Oh, I see, thanks! 8)
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Here are a few of my 'older' RR's.
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And a few more, including 2 very large Curved Jacks.
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All very nice Joe! ::tu:: 8)
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Madmarco wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:00 pm All very nice Joe! ::tu:: 8)
Thanks Mm.
Many of the RR's from 5-10 years ago are simply great knives. I could not stop buying them which is why i have a few hundred now. I would like some of them to go to new homes, maybe even get used. These ones are very sharp and edge hold soooo long. Great for field dressing deer. ::woot::
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kootenay joe wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:40 pm
Madmarco wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:00 pm All very nice Joe! ::tu:: 8)
Thanks Mm.
Many of the RR's from 5-10 years ago are simply great knives. I could not stop buying them which is why i have a few hundred now. I would like some of them to go to new homes, maybe even get used. These ones are very sharp and edge hold soooo long. Great for field dressing deer. ::woot::
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Ya, I saw your earlier post where you said, "how about a buck a piece" and was VERY surprised that you didn't get flooded with PM's or replies right here on this thread. Sounds like a heck of a deal to me, but unfortunately I have more less expensive models than I know what to do with as it is. I also recall reading your posts about field dressing a complete deer with a RR folder, and man, you were impressed! Chinese or not they're teriffic knives! 8)
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Thanks Marco. Did i say $1 each ? I think this might have been someone else making a joke ? One of the things that most impresses me is their consistency. I have never received an RR knife with an 'issue' and everyone has shaving sharp blades.
Here are a few more i recently took pictures of.
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kootenay joe wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:03 am Thanks Marco. Did i say $1 each ? I think this might have been someone else making a joke ? One of the things that most impresses me is their consistency. I have never received an RR knife with an 'issue' and everyone has shaving sharp blades.
Here are a few more i recently took pictures of.
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My apologies Roland, ::doh:: you're absolutely correct. It wasn't you who said that at all, it was someone trying to be funny or facetious. ::td:: Those are also great lookin' knives! 8)
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Difference between Rough Rider & Rough Ryder knife sales, are they 2 seperate companies or just one choosing the spelling randomly? ::doh::
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charlesf20 wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 2:23 am Difference between Rough Rider & Rough Ryder knife sales, are they 2 seperate companies or just one choosing the spelling randomly? ::doh::
Good question Charles, this subject comes up on occasion.
Rough Ryder has always been made and owned by "Smoky Mountain Knife Works." RR was not sold to SMKW.
The knives were originally spelled with a "Y" and then later changed to an "I"
Around the 25th anniversary they went back to the "Y" to honor their beginnings.
There was no "Trademark" problem with a Teddy Roosevelt group or entity.

So....Originally spelled with a "Y," changed to an "I" and back to the "Y" around the 25th anniversary.

RR is an American owned company, the knives are produced in China within numerous knife companies located in China.
Rough Ryder Reserve (RRR) knives are made within a different Chinese factory than many other Rough Ryder knives, mainly because it has been stated by SMKW that the workmanship is not "better" but different for the production of these fine RRR knives and warrants the small price increase from the standard RR knives. If you own any of the RRR knives, you will see and feel the difference.

However, nothing is written in stone concerning the "I" and "Y" spelling. A good example is the three new "Rough Ryder Buckshot Bone" knives recently released. (RR2318, RR2320, and RR2323) The master blades are etched "ROUGH RIDER" but the tang stamps are etched "ROUGH RYDER." ::shrug::

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Dan, thanks for this history of Rider vs Ryder.
My earliest RR's are from 2007 and all are marked Rough Rider so the early use of "Ryder" must have been before 2007 and not used for very long ?
My experience is that every traditional style RR i have ever bought has been a close to 'perfect' knife. Not even one has a significant issue.
The few more modern, tactical style RR's i have are not as well made and the edges are not super sharp.
The fixed blade RR's i have are o.k. but nothing special and edges are a bit dull. I think some of these were made in Pakistan.
Some people have posted Traditional style RR's that do have an 'issue'. I wonder if these were made in a different factory than were mine ?
The older RR's like "Outdoorsman Series", "Long Rifle Series" and "Rifleman Series" and others, are all absolutely top notch, more like a GEC knife than a regular China made knife. If any dealers still have any of these i suggest to those who like RR's to snap them up.
There are also "COLT" traditional style folders also put out by SMKW. These seem to be the same as the traditional style RR's except being branded as "COLT".
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Old Folder wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:18 am
charlesf20 wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 2:23 am Difference between Rough Rider & Rough Ryder knife sales, are they 2 seperate companies or just one choosing the spelling randomly? ::doh::
Good question Charles, this subject comes up on occasion.
Rough Ryder has always been made and owned by "Smoky Mountain Knife Works." RR was not sold to SMKW.
The knives were originally spelled with a "Y" and then later changed to an "I"
Around the 25th anniversary they went back to the "Y" to honor their beginnings.
There was no "Trademark" problem with a Teddy Roosevelt group or entity.

So....Originally spelled with a "Y," changed to an "I" and back to the "Y" around the 25th anniversary.

RR is an American owned company, the knives are produced in China within numerous knife companies located in China.
Rough Ryder Reserve (RRR) knives are made within a different Chinese factory than many other Rough Ryder knives, mainly because it has been stated by SMKW that the workmanship is not "better" but different for the production of these fine RRR knives and warrants the small price increase from the standard RR knives. If you own any of the RRR knives, you will see and feel the difference.

However, nothing is written in stone concerning the "I" and "Y" spelling. A good example is the three new "Rough Ryder Buckshot Bone" knives recently released. (RR2318, RR2320, and RR2323) The master blades are etched "ROUGH RIDER" but the tang stamps are etched "ROUGH RYDER." ::shrug::

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Great info Dan, ::tu:: thanks! Very interesting ::hmm:: about the 2 different spellings on the same knife! 8)
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kj, I would like to confirm how you rate the Colts in terms of their quality. I know you said they were like the traditional RRs. Am I correct in thinking you judge them to be similar to your older RRs?
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Madmarco wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:28 pm
Old Folder wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:18 am
charlesf20 wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 2:23 am Difference between Rough Rider & Rough Ryder knife sales, are they 2 seperate companies or just one choosing the spelling randomly? ::doh::
Good question Charles, this subject comes up on occasion.
Rough Ryder has always been made and owned by "Smoky Mountain Knife Works." RR was not sold to SMKW.
The knives were originally spelled with a "Y" and then later changed to an "I"
Around the 25th anniversary they went back to the "Y" to honor their beginnings.
There was no "Trademark" problem with a Teddy Roosevelt group or entity.

So....Originally spelled with a "Y," changed to an "I" and back to the "Y" around the 25th anniversary.

RR is an American owned company, the knives are produced in China within numerous knife companies located in China.
Rough Ryder Reserve (RRR) knives are made within a different Chinese factory than many other Rough Ryder knives, mainly because it has been stated by SMKW that the workmanship is not "better" but different for the production of these fine RRR knives and warrants the small price increase from the standard RR knives. If you own any of the RRR knives, you will see and feel the difference.

However, nothing is written in stone concerning the "I" and "Y" spelling. A good example is the three new "Rough Ryder Buckshot Bone" knives recently released. (RR2318, RR2320, and RR2323) The master blades are etched "ROUGH RIDER" but the tang stamps are etched "ROUGH RYDER." ::shrug::

Dan
Great info Dan, ::tu:: thanks! Very interesting ::hmm:: about the 2 different spellings on the same knife! 8)
Your very welcome marco.
I guess the "Import Laws" restrict RR from selling Automatics?

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Old Folder wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:59 pm
Madmarco wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:28 pm
Old Folder wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:18 am

Good question Charles, this subject comes up on occasion.
Rough Ryder has always been made and owned by "Smoky Mountain Knife Works." RR was not sold to SMKW.
The knives were originally spelled with a "Y" and then later changed to an "I"
Around the 25th anniversary they went back to the "Y" to honor their beginnings.
There was no "Trademark" problem with a Teddy Roosevelt group or entity.

So....Originally spelled with a "Y," changed to an "I" and back to the "Y" around the 25th anniversary.

RR is an American owned company, the knives are produced in China within numerous knife companies located in China.
Rough Ryder Reserve (RRR) knives are made within a different Chinese factory than many other Rough Ryder knives, mainly because it has been stated by SMKW that the workmanship is not "better" but different for the production of these fine RRR knives and warrants the small price increase from the standard RR knives. If you own any of the RRR knives, you will see and feel the difference.

However, nothing is written in stone concerning the "I" and "Y" spelling. A good example is the three new "Rough Ryder Buckshot Bone" knives recently released. (RR2318, RR2320, and RR2323) The master blades are etched "ROUGH RIDER" but the tang stamps are etched "ROUGH RYDER." ::shrug::

Dan
Great info Dan, ::tu:: thanks! Very interesting ::hmm:: about the 2 different spellings on the same knife! 8)
Your very welcome marco.
I guess the "Import Laws" restrict RR from selling Automatics?

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I don't know Dan. ::shrug:: If I have this right, SMKW has the rights to RR's and they're built in China and China has no qualms about exporting autos, and, many Italian autos are imported so I have no idea if it's the import laws stopping RR, perhaps they're just not interested in the auto market, although I think that would be foolish on their part since it's such an expanding market. Maybe in the future? ::shrug:: 8)
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One of the many things i like about Rough Rider is the wide range of patterns, all well designed.
Here is an Electrician's knife with a liner lock for the screw driver blade and an etch showing inches on the master Spear point blade.
And, there is an adjustable wrench attached to the handle butt and it works well.
Great knife !
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I know Jerry likes the small Trapper so here is one: 3 1/2" with "Gunstock Bone" handles.
And a full size 4 1/8" Trapper with Black Lip Pearl handles. Also rather nice.
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And one more. This one is branded "COLT" but they are the same as Rough Riders. 3 5/8" Stag Congress.
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