Counterfeit Benchmade
Counterfeit Benchmade
I bought this knife several months ago knowing it was a copy of a Benchmade Bugout. It wasn't until I received it that I realized instead of your industry standard knock off, (which all knife companies do to lesser or greater degree) this was a overt effort to fool the consumer.
The blue Bugout is the real thing. (I hope!)
The blue Bugout is the real thing. (I hope!)
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Wow, those look identical to me Ken, right down to the clips and color coordinated studs. How can you tell one is a fake? Thx!
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Probably where he bought it. If it came from China it's fake unless you buy a Ganzo.
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Inside of the box and the barcode seem to be the only telling signs, two pictures of mine for comparison.
I think it's *edit HDGate and some guy from Shanghai on eBay that's peddling the fakes, mainly.
I think it's *edit HDGate and some guy from Shanghai on eBay that's peddling the fakes, mainly.
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I'd like to here more about these
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It's a shame people buy these knowing they are counterfeits.
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I bought this one from a Facebook advertisement.
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Not really
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Corrected my above post. Thanks for jogging my memory.
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It’s for sure the Chicom way. They are masters at copying. No investment in R&D, engineering or design, testing, etc. Just copy and steal someone else’s design, take it to market and undercut the price. Cosmetically appears identical to the original, down to and including the paperwork, packaging, everything. Most probably made from inferior (cheap) materials.
Been there, been a victim.
Ken
Been there, been a victim.
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The Chinese are making some nice expensive knives anymore but they are definitely trying to dupe us. The price is a dead givaway, they are selling them way cheaper than dealers here can buy them wholesale. They can still be a descent user but it ain't the real deal and the materials they are made with aren't as good. Just my opinion.
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More than your opinion Sam, it's the way it is!
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I was close to buying a Chris Reeve knockoff a few years ago when I first saw them, but now I'm thankful I didn't open that door.
Pocket, fixed, machete, axe, it's all good!
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If you get it on the cheap it may be worth checking out!1967redrider wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:12 pm I was close to buying a Chris Reeve knockoff a few years ago when I first saw them, but now I'm thankful I didn't open that door.
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I wonder who first stole the "trapper" design? Or who was the first company to make counterfeit "stockman" knives? Now we have stolen "bugouts".Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 4:47 pm It’s for sure the Chicom way. They are masters at copying. No investment in R&D, engineering or design, testing, etc. Just copy and steal someone else’s design, take it to market and undercut the price. Cosmetically appears identical to the original, down to and including the paperwork, packaging, everything. Most probably made from inferior (cheap) materials.
Been there, been a victim.
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The difference is, when they copied the design they did not put the name of the originating company on it and represent it as being made by that company. They did not use the originating company’s name, advertising, merchandising, and reputation to sell the copy.ken98k wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:41 amI wonder who first stole the "trapper" design? Or who was the first company to make counterfeit "stockman" knives? Now we have stolen "bugouts".Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 4:47 pm It’s for sure the Chicom way. They are masters at copying. No investment in R&D, engineering or design, testing, etc. Just copy and steal someone else’s design, take it to market and undercut the price. Cosmetically appears identical to the original, down to and including the paperwork, packaging, everything. Most probably made from inferior (cheap) materials.
Been there, been a victim.
Ken
The knife industry is full of stolen designs.
Instead when they copied the Trapper, to use your example, they put their own name on it, marketed and distributed it using their resources, and sold it on their own reputation. All of which the Chicoms are not doing in the OP example. They are counterfeiting, pure and simple - like you said, an “overt effort to fool the customer.”
The knife industry is just one of hundreds, probably thousands, of industries ripped off by the Chicom copying racket.
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Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:33 amThe difference is, when they copied the design they did not put the name of the originating company on it and represent it as being made by that company. They did not use the originating company’s name, advertising, merchandising, and reputation to sell the copy.ken98k wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 3:41 amI wonder who first stole the "trapper" design? Or who was the first company to make counterfeit "stockman" knives? Now we have stolen "bugouts".Mumbleypeg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 4:47 pm It’s for sure the Chicom way. They are masters at copying. No investment in R&D, engineering or design, testing, etc. Just copy and steal someone else’s design, take it to market and undercut the price. Cosmetically appears identical to the original, down to and including the paperwork, packaging, everything. Most probably made from inferior (cheap) materials.
Been there, been a victim.
Ken
The knife industry is full of stolen designs.
Instead when they copied the Trapper, to use your example, they put their own name on it, marketed and distributed it using their resources, and sold it on their own reputation. All of which the Chicoms are not doing in the OP example. They are counterfeiting, pure and simple,
The knife industry is just one of hundreds, probably thousands, of industries ripped off by the Chicom copying racket.
Ken
I recently watched a series of YouTube videos on counterfeit post-war Lionel trains. I guess deception is prevalent in any hobby, unfortunately. But like you mentioned, Ken, using a similar pattern with your company's labeling isn't deception. If they want to sell a cheap version of a Bugout and maybe label it "Shanghai Surprise" with their own unique labeling, go for it.
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You're going to look awfully silly with that knife sticking out of your @#$. -Clint Eastwood, High Plains Drifter
You're going to look awfully silly with that knife sticking out of your @#$. -Clint Eastwood, High Plains Drifter
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I bought 2 spyderco knives from DHgate a couple of years ago. They were $18.00 each with free shipping came from China in about 3 weeks.. I was curious to see how good these fakes were.. the knives came in the exact box spyderco uses the knives were stamped made in golden Colorado USA, even came with a spyderco warranty card.. talk about copyright infringement. The only way to tell the difference between my fake and a real one was putting them side by side. The metal just looked different the handle screws were a different size. What a shame the USA puts up with this
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Not much can be done about it but not buying them, ask Bill if you don't believe me.