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Check out this "silver swirl acorn" Remington without a punch.

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I looked at that. It's bone, can't figure out what is on the handles, never seen anything like that before
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Being someone who knows little about counterfeits, what about the knife do you find so outrageous John? ::shrug:: 8)
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It appears that silver paint/goo is trying to conceal some mighty big cracks. ::skeptic:: The old knife looks solid except for the bone handles.
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A Remington having an acorn shield should have a punch. And visa versa. Which is what John was saying in the OP.

I’m not sure what’s going on with those handle covers ::shrug:: Whatever it is they’re not original to any Remington I’ve ever seen, from any era. I think I see some cracks in the bone - maybe that silver stuff is something like J-B Weld. ::doh::

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Edit - looks like we are both seeing the same thing Philip. ::nod::
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Ha!!
Isn't that just the liner with some shread of bone on the pile side?

Looks like a new pin on that bottom bolster holding the spey.
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That knife is a mechanic's dream. ::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol::

But my main issue, like Ken stated, is the acorn shield without a punch blade. Nothing Remington made. I didn't even bother to look up the pattern number.
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1967redrider wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:58 am That knife is a mechanic's dream. ::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol::

But my main issue, like Ken stated, is the acorn shield without a punch blade. Nothing Remington made. I didn't even bother to look up the pattern number.
Well, I'm totally in favor of carefully patching in a missing chip or two in a nice set of vintage bone scales, but this one takes it to a whole new level of "artistry"! Maybe we should call this modern bone art? ::facepalm::
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herbva wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:10 am
1967redrider wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:58 am That knife is a mechanic's dream. ::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol::

But my main issue, like Ken stated, is the acorn shield without a punch blade. Nothing Remington made. I didn't even bother to look up the pattern number.
Well, I'm totally in favor of carefully patching in a missing chip or two in a nice set of vintage bone scales, but this one takes it to a whole new level of "artistry"! Maybe we should call this modern bone art? ::facepalm::

Ever try soldering or welding bone cracks, Herb? ::shrug:: ::facepalm::
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1967redrider wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:16 am
herbva wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:10 am
1967redrider wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:58 am That knife is a mechanic's dream. ::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol::

But my main issue, like Ken stated, is the acorn shield without a punch blade. Nothing Remington made. I didn't even bother to look up the pattern number.
Well, I'm totally in favor of carefully patching in a missing chip or two in a nice set of vintage bone scales, but this one takes it to a whole new level of "artistry"! Maybe we should call this modern bone art? ::facepalm::

Ever try soldering or welding bone cracks, Herb? ::shrug:: ::facepalm::
There is actually something called "cold solder", sold under various brands, which I think is a type of epoxy. Maybe that's what was used on this remmy? ::hmm::
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It’s a beauty!
And folks are already bidding on it so I guess there’s a market for everything and a buyer for anything.
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He for sure don’t know about old Remington knives. Harold
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1967redrider wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:58 am That knife is a mechanic's dream. ::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol::

But my main issue, like Ken stated, is the acorn shield without a punch blade. Nothing Remington made. I didn't even bother to look up the pattern number.
Sorry, but that's just not true. Actually, Remington made a number of knives with punches that did not have an acorn shield. Their Purina knife is a prime example and I'm sure there were many other advertising knives that had a punch w/o an acorn shield. Some of the scout knives had punches w/o an acorn shield as well. There are some very advanced Remington collector's on here that could probably cite other examples.
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just bob wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:21 pm
1967redrider wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:58 am That knife is a mechanic's dream. ::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol::

But my main issue, like Ken stated, is the acorn shield without a punch blade. Nothing Remington made. I didn't even bother to look up the pattern number.
Sorry, but that's just not true. Actually, Remington made a number of knives with punches that did not have an acorn shield. Their Purina knife is a prime example and I'm sure there were many other advertising knives that had a punch w/o an acorn shield. Some of the scout knives had punches w/o an acorn shield as well. There are some very advanced Remington collector's on here that could probably cite other examples.

You are correct, Bob. A Remington Scout might not have an Acorn shield, for example. But any knife with an Acorn shield has a punch blade. 😉
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1967redrider wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:27 pm
just bob wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:21 pm
1967redrider wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:58 am That knife is a mechanic's dream. ::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol::

But my main issue, like Ken stated, is the acorn shield without a punch blade. Nothing Remington made. I didn't even bother to look up the pattern number.
Sorry, but that's just not true. Actually, Remington made a number of knives with punches that did not have an acorn shield. Their Purina knife is a prime example and I'm sure there were many other advertising knives that had a punch w/o an acorn shield. Some of the scout knives had punches w/o an acorn shield as well. There are some very advanced Remington collector's on here that could probably cite other examples.

You are correct, Bob. A Remington Scout might not have an Acorn shield, for example. But any knife with an Acorn shield has a punch blade. 😉
The comment made by Ken and referred by you was - (Copy and paste)- A Remington having an acorn shield should have a punch. And visa versa. Which is what John was saying in the OP.

Wouldn't visa versa refer to a knife with a punch and w/o an acorn shield? I don't see another interpretation. Please explain.
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just bob wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:41 pm
1967redrider wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:27 pm
just bob wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:21 pm

Sorry, but that's just not true. Actually, Remington made a number of knives with punches that did not have an acorn shield. Their Purina knife is a prime example and I'm sure there were many other advertising knives that had a punch w/o an acorn shield. Some of the scout knives had punches w/o an acorn shield as well. There are some very advanced Remington collector's on here that could probably cite other examples.

You are correct, Bob. A Remington Scout might not have an Acorn shield, for example. But any knife with an Acorn shield has a punch blade. 😉
The comment made by Ken and referred by you was - (Copy and paste)- A Remington having an acorn shield should have a punch. And visa versa. Which is what John was saying in the OP.

Wouldn't visa versa refer to a knife with a punch and w/o an acorn shield? I don't see another interpretation. Please explain.

If Remington put an Acorn shield on a knife, it had a punch blade. They wouldn't put an Acorn shield on a knife that didn't have a punch. They would, however, put a punch in a knife that didn't have an Acorn shield, like the examples you cited.

Think about it, I hope this makes sense. ::tu::
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Bob is correct. I shouldn’t have added “and visa versa”. I believe the rest of the statement to be true - if it has an acorn shield it should have a punch. The OP knife, having an acorn shield, should have a punch.

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Well, there you go. I thought the old knife looked pretty solid except for the paint and broken bones, what do I know? ::shrug::
Haven't had the chance at too many Remington knives so if I run across a Remington with an acorn shield it best have a punch. I'll try to remember this. ::nod::
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This is from the AAPK Remington forum and very interesting information on this subject.


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just bob wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:30 pm This is from the AAPK Remington forum and very interesting information on this subject.


viewtopic.php?t=44921
just bob,
Thanks for digging that up for us, very interesting read! ::handshake::
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FRJ wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:51 am Ha!!
Isn't that just the liner with some shread of bone on the pile side?

Looks like a new pin on that bottom bolster holding the spey.
That eliminates the question of whether the blade or the shield is not orriginal.
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Not sure whether the silver swirl goop is holding the bone together or the bone is holding the goop.
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btrwtr wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:41 pm Not sure whether the silver swirl goop is holding the bone together or the bone is holding the goop.
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espn77 wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:05 pm
btrwtr wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:41 pm Not sure whether the silver swirl goop is holding the bone together or the bone is holding the goop.
::woot::


Do you know if an R3563 is a Remington Stockman pattern, or is this a Case -18/-47 frame? ::shrug::
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1967redrider wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:16 pm


Do you know if an R3563 is a Remington Stockman pattern, or is this a Case -18/-47 frame? ::shrug::
It's a Remington stockman.
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