Another one from the fudge factory.

btrwtr · Post by **btrwtr** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:37 pm

Wrong frame, wrong dog's head shield, wrong jigging, wrong bolsters. Looks like stainless steel. Looks new because it is new.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-VINTAGE-DO ... 0005.m1851

just bob · Post by **just bob** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:45 pm

Wayne you have a good eye and a lot of knowledge on knives. I appreciate posts like this that picture and explain the issues with a knife. It helps dolts like me learn a little more.

Gunsil · Post by **Gunsil** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:00 pm

This is not the first one of these I have seen. KA-BAR never did make a pattern like that, a shame some folks are bidding away their cash on it.

Steve Warden · Post by **Steve Warden** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:07 pm

just bob wrote:Wayne you have a good eye and a lot of knowledge on knives. I appreciate posts like this that picture and explain the issues with a knife. It helps dolts like me learn a little more.

AMEN!
- from another dolt

philco · Post by **philco** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:32 pm

Could that knife have started out looking something like this ?

doglegg · Post by **doglegg** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:35 pm

Thanks from another deplorable dolt. I appreciate you fellows knowledge.

geocash · Post by **geocash** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:46 pm

Thanks here, too. I believe I've recently read other critical comments regarding that seller. Several months ago I bought & immediately returned one knife from that seller, so I'm a bit cautious myself.

How about an unabashed plug for the AAPK stores? I don't see that kind of thing here.

just bob · Post by **just bob** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:07 pm

I don't know where this seller is getting his items from. He recently had a slew of really great part knives including switchblades that went for big $. He also recently sold a lot of Case Classic knives with issues. He must have hit a treasure trove or warehouse of knives and parts that were accumulated for years. Look at his completed listings. Amongst the junk are some very desirable items.

geocash · Post by **geocash** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:41 pm

just bob wrote:I don't know where this seller is getting his items from. He recently had a slew of really great part knives including switchblades that went for big $. He also recently sold a lot of Case Classic knives with issues. He must have hit a treasure trove or warehouse of knives and parts that were accumulated for years. Look at his completed listings. Amongst the junk are some very desirable items.

I'm quite smitten by a lot of the knives but my problem is I often can't tell the junk from the very desirable.

peanut740 · Post by **peanut740** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:12 pm

I personally wouldn't bid on a good/real knife from a seller that regularly sells fakes.This seller is at or near the top of that list.

btrwtr · Post by **btrwtr** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:45 pm

peanut740 wrote:I personally wouldn't bid on a good/real knife from a seller that regularly sells fakes.This seller is at or near the top of that list.

That makes two Roger!

Mumbleypeg · Post by **Mumbleypeg** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:13 pm

Make that 3.

I've seen a few nice legitimate knives mixed in with the junk but I just shake my head and pass them by. There's a couple of other sellers in this same category. I won't buy from them either.

Ken

gsmith7158 · Post by **gsmith7158** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:14 pm

Take a look at this Gunstock muskrat with a small cutout but no nail nick in sight.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NICE-VINTAGE-1 ... %7Ciid%3A1

mumblypeg · Post by **mumblypeg** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:24 pm

philco wrote:Could that knife have started out looking something like this ?

Exactly what I was thinking Phil.

Daryl · Post by **Daryl** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:46 pm

just bob wrote:Wayne you have a good eye and a lot of knowledge on knives. I appreciate posts like this that picture and explain the issues with a knife. It helps dolts like me learn a little more.

Another grateful dolt here! The Counterfeit Watch forum has become the first thing I check when I visit AAPK. If I'm ever tempted by another knife on eBay, I'm running it past you guys first.

stockman · Post by **stockman** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:25 pm

gsmith7158 wrote:Take a look at this Gunstock muskrat with a small cutout but no nail nick in sight.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NICE-VINTAGE-1 ... %7Ciid%3A1

Greg, you are usually right on, on these faked knives. I know nothing about Stainless Cutlery Co New York, but the cut out seemed to line up with the nail nick to me. Also the knife looked good. I usually can spot fakes from across the room. I am probably wrong, hope the guys will check this one out. Trying to keep learning.

Harold

stockman · Post by **stockman** » Thu Jan 24, 2019 7:25 pm

gsmith7158 wrote:Take a look at this Gunstock muskrat with a small cutout but no nail nick in sight.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NICE-VINTAGE-1 ... %7Ciid%3A1

Greg, you are usually right on, on these faked knives. I know nothing about Stainless Cutlery Co New York, but the cut out seemed to line up with the nail nick to me. Also the knife looked good. I usually can spot fakes from across the room. I am probably wrong, hope the guys will check this one out. Trying to keep learning.

Harold

gsmith7158 · Post by **gsmith7158** » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:50 am

stockman wrote:
gsmith7158 wrote:Take a look at this Gunstock muskrat with a small cutout but no nail nick in sight.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NICE-VINTAGE-1 ... %7Ciid%3A1
Greg, you are usually right on, on these faked knives. I know nothing about Stainless Cutlery Co New York, but the cut out seemed to line up with the nail nick to me. Also the knife looked good. I usually can spot fakes from across the room. I am probably wrong, hope the guys will check this one out. Trying to keep learning.

Harold

You may be right Harold. At first glance I didn't even see that nail nick but after magnification I see it now. My failing eyes have gotten me in trouble again.

Stainless Cutlery Co. was a Camillus Co. So I would expect that to be a Camillus pattern but I don't recall amuskrat with square bolsters. Perhaps someone will e lighten me.

just bob · Post by **just bob** » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:25 am

OK from the same seller. What is the difference between a costume knife and a counterfeit knife?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BEAUTIFUL-1940 ... SwWN5cQj44

OK at least it's a straight X, but not much else straight here - I think.

btrwtr · Post by **btrwtr** » Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:46 am

A costume knife is one you can take trick or treating. Junk in other words.

Mumbleypeg · Post by **Mumbleypeg** » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:04 am

Apparently a costume knife is one that is masquerading as something it’s not.

Ken

gsmith7158 · Post by **gsmith7158** » Fri Jan 25, 2019 11:06 am

stockman wrote:
gsmith7158 wrote:Take a look at this Gunstock muskrat with a small cutout but no nail nick in sight.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NICE-VINTAGE-1 ... %7Ciid%3A1
Greg, you are usually right on, on these faked knives. I know nothing about Stainless Cutlery Co New York, but the cut out seemed to line up with the nail nick to me. Also the knife looked good. I usually can spot fakes from across the room. I am probably wrong, hope the guys will check this one out. Trying to keep learning.

Harold

I thought I remembered seeing this knife. It sold on Jan. 9,2019 for $56.95 and had a crack in the scale . Maybe he just repaired it. Still not certain it's authentic though.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-STAINL ... 663.l44720

btrwtr · Post by **btrwtr** » Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:37 pm

Not the same knife.

gsmith7158 · Post by **gsmith7158** » Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:24 pm

Well if that's not the same knife then that must be a good parrern.

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