1 of a kind Case knife?

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1 of a kind Case knife?

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Seems much more likely the blade has been reworked? Poor pictures but isn't the secondary blade new grind and the master blade traditional? Doubt it came from the factory like this. Would make a great user.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/84-CASE-XX-629 ... 4902.l9144
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It's a rare bird a copperhead pattern # 6249 with a 6292 pen second blade I don't think this one slipped out of the Case factory that way . ::shrug::
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Both blades are new grind. It is possible that it is a factory error, 92 pen blade installed in a 6249.
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What does he mean when he says the rear blade does not have a 90 degree stop? If you look at the picture of the knife looking down the barrel the kick on the smaller blade is obvious (last pic) , however the kick on the master blade looks to be gone. The kicks on the blades are not in the same position on the blades? No? Is this an optical illusion or does it explain what he means by saying the smaller blade has no 90 degree stop? The blades look fine when they are closed. He also shows the smaller blade in the 90 degree position? I'm going to email the seller and ask him. I've confused myself in trying to figure this out.
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Here is the seller's response.

Hello and thanks for your question. It does not have a 90 degree stop as it should, if it was a true copperhead pattern knife. The picture is just a picture so you can see the blade. You cannot see a stop in a picture. Hope this helps a little. Factory mistake or whatever you want to call it. All the best !!

Sorry, but I still have more questions than answers.
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just bob wrote:What does he mean when he says the rear blade does not have a 90 degree stop?
I would have to assume (a dangerous thing to do) that the seller is referring to the lack of a half stop on the secondary blade which he calls a 90 degree stop. Since I don't own a 6249 Case knife I don't know if it has half stops on the blades or not.
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philco wrote:
just bob wrote:What does he mean when he says the rear blade does not have a 90 degree stop?
I would have to assume (a dangerous thing to do) that the seller is referring to the lack of a half stop on the secondary blade which he calls a 90 degree stop. Since I don't own a 6249 Case knife I don't know if it has half stops on the blades or not.
That is exactly what I thought when I first read his description, but notice he says " you cannot see a stop in the picture" I'm holding a 6254 trapper right now looking at it and you can not see any stops on it - they are covered by the bolsters. I assume this is true on the 49 pattern as well? I wonder if he means the blade opens too far? Who knows - easier to solve a Rubik's Cube - blindfolded than figure out what some sellers are talking about. Here is another one I ran across this morning that is a must have for the military collector's with the "natzi" markings on the blade. Thankfully I was able to figure this out before the 2nd cup of coffee.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/case-xx-6318-s ... 0290.m3507
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just bob wrote: Who knows - easier to solve a Rubik's Cube - blindfolded than figure out what some sellers are talking about.

::nod:: You said a mouthful there. :lol:


Here is another one I ran across this morning that is a must have for the military collector's with the "natzi" markings on the blade. Thankfully I was able to figure this out before the 2nd cup of coffee.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/case-xx-6318-s ... 0290.m3507
::hmm:: Lightning SS on the tang stamp ?
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::handshake::
philco wrote:
just bob wrote: Who knows - easier to solve a Rubik's Cube - blindfolded than figure out what some sellers are talking about.

::nod:: You said a mouthful there. :lol:


Here is another one I ran across this morning that is a must have for the military collector's with the "natzi" markings on the blade. Thankfully I was able to figure this out before the 2nd cup of coffee.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/case-xx-6318-s ... 0290.m3507
::hmm:: Lightning SS on the tang stamp ?
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philco wrote:
just bob wrote: Who knows - easier to solve a Rubik's Cube - blindfolded than figure out what some sellers are talking about.

::nod:: You said a mouthful there. :lol:


Here is another one I ran across this morning that is a must have for the military collector's with the "natzi" markings on the blade. Thankfully I was able to figure this out before the 2nd cup of coffee.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/case-xx-6318-s ... 0290.m3507
::hmm:: Lightning SS on the tang stamp ?
This one is stainless steel. so the CASE XX SS stamp is correct.
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knifeaholic wrote:
philco wrote:
just bob wrote: Who knows - easier to solve a Rubik's Cube - blindfolded than figure out what some sellers are talking about.

::nod:: You said a mouthful there. :lol:


Here is another one I ran across this morning that is a must have for the military collector's with the "natzi" markings on the blade. Thankfully I was able to figure this out before the 2nd cup of coffee.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/case-xx-6318-s ... 0290.m3507
::hmm:: Lightning SS on the tang stamp ?
This one is stainless steel. so the CASE XX SS stamp is correct.
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On all of my Copperheads both blades have a half stop though I don't have any post 1980 knives. The half stop of is not visible in pictures but is a flat tang at half open position, so if his does not have this it would be irregular. ::nod::
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gsmith7158 wrote:On all of my Copperheads both blades have a half stop though I don't have any post 1980 knives. The half stop of is not visible in pictures but is a flat tang at half open position, so if his does not have this it would be irregular. ::nod::
Agree all 49 patterns should have half stops on both blades.

However, if it is a factory error knife with a 92 pen blade installed instead of the correct 49 pen blade, then the lack of half stop on the pen is explained by the fact that the 92 never had half stops.
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knifeaholic wrote:
gsmith7158 wrote:On all of my Copperheads both blades have a half stop though I don't have any post 1980 knives. The half stop of is not visible in pictures but is a flat tang at half open position, so if his does not have this it would be irregular. ::nod::
Agree all 49 patterns should have half stops on both blades.

However, if it is a factory error knife with a 92 pen blade installed instead of the correct 49 pen blade, then the lack of half stop on the pen is explained by the fact that the 92 never had half stops.
That would certainly explain it Steve. ::tu::
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