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$500 mistake

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At $500 with no returns this just strikes me as a very bad way to spend your stimulus money. Isn't the master blade the only thing Case about this?


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I'm not saying it is or isn't legitimate, but I do think the knife appears to have been rehandled. The scales certainly don't look original and the auction picture of the pile side shows a very poor fit and perhaps a broken scale pin or pins. The pictures are not great, but I think I can see the W.R. Case & Sons tang stamp on 2 of the blades, and Case did make a 6368 congress pattern. ::hmm::
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I got a question, if the knife is legit would any of you pay that much for it? ::shrug::
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If it was completely legitimate it is still worn out.
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Some people just assume that “old” means “valuable”.
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There was indeed a 6368 “congress whittler”. Rare knife. My guess is the eBay knife is legit, but like Cal says, it’s pretty much worn out. Here’s a picture from Sargent’s 7th edition.

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I'm going to say this is a re-worked knife. I can't see the master blade well enough to determine if it is legit but the bone looks more like Parker bone and the pattern # looks to be double stamped. The frame does look like it is legit. At any rate, it is worn badly enough that even if it was completely legit I wouldn't give even $100.00. Just my opinion.-----Ricky
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Does anyone else have any information of the tang stamp being on the outside the tang on a Case knife? I think this is the only one I''ve ever seen. Very bad pics on this but I thought the tang stamp looked homemade and that was why it was double stamped? I didn't like the handle material at all and if it is original shouldn't it have a shield? The one in the book does.
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What do you mean by "the outside the tang" ? Do you mean the back side of the tang as opposed to front side ?
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I worked on the seller’s lousy pictures a little. See below. The jigging looks to me like Case jigging. It’s very pocket worn so that might account for the light color - I’ve had pocket sweat lighten the colors of both bone and stag, but not to that extent. The stamps, while dim appear to say W.R. CASE & SONS. The double stamp doesn’t bother me - it happens. The knife has obviously been heavily used. Given the condition issues I don’t think it’s worth anything near what the seller is asking, regardless how rare it might be. JMO.

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Old and worn to the extent that it wouldn't bring anything close to the $500 in the real sane collecting world. Would have to see the knife closer but have never seen Case handles look like that regardless of wear. Rest of the knife looks as I'd expect.
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I looked in Tom's book on this and he has a bone and pearl in this pattern listed at about $1500 in mint state, but no pictures. This knife is no where near that value but has value for the pattern type. I'm just curious what are your comments about this knife Tom? I have seen redbone knives that were worn slick and yet retained the brilliant red color. Hard for me to imagine "pocket sweat" can have this effect on bone? The jigging is still there?
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just bob wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:03 pm I looked in Tom's book on this and he has a bone and pearl in this pattern listed at about $1500 in mint state, but no pictures. This knife is no where near that value but has value for the pattern type. I'm just curious what are your comments about this knife Tom? I have seen redbone knives that were worn slick and yet retained the brilliant red color. Hard for me to imagine "pocket sweat" can have this effect on bone? The jigging is still there?
In my opinion the bone is not original at all. Another thing I noticed right away is the pin placement of the pins next to the bolsters. Too far away from the bolsters in my opinion. When I put my book together I considered the prices that Sargent’s book had these small whittlers at were not realistic as I have handled several and never saw one sell even at $1000. So I couldn’t value them at what Bob Wurlzelbacher had them at. Blades may very well be authentic but in my opinion that’s about it. Not collectible at all, again just my opinion.

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