I know it is probably obvious, but even if a knife has a certificate of authenticity it doesn't mean it's legitimate

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Re: I know it is probably obvious, but even if a knife has a certificate of authenticity it doesn't mean it's legitimate

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This is the Case Classic club knife with the scarce handle material. In my opinion the correct CoA adds to the value of this knife. It won't let me copy the pic.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ ... d-stockman
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Re: I know it is probably obvious, but even if a knife has a certificate of authenticity it doesn't mean it's legitimate

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TritonJ wrote: Sun May 09, 2021 1:23 am I saw the seller’s screen name and remembered seeing it on a different site. Not here to claim it is the same person, but it’s a strange coincidence nonetheless. The other site listed what I think is a pathetic fake Case Tested copperhead. Bad scales, awful shield, see for yourselves.....

https://www.etsy.com/listing/855251393/ ... ng_details
I have recently looked into the seller, and I doubt they knew that was a counterfeit. There is no way to be 100% sure of course because I am not them haha :D. Although, I yet again highly doubt they knew. Most of their knives look 100% legitimate.
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Re: I know it is probably obvious, but even if a knife has a certificate of authenticity it doesn't mean it's legitimate

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I owned every Case Collector’s Club knife that was made up until 2011. Case use to put these first club knives on a plaque with a COA on the back of the plaque. I know that started in 1980 or 1981 I forget the first year of the CCC. So I am not so certain of the origins of these COA’s. Case still gives COA’s with their club knives, I know, I am still buying CCC knives since I am a life member and every knife I buy from the club has a COA. I for one appreciate having these and I keep all of them and when I sell a club knife I include the COA, box, keychain, tin or anything else that CCC puts with these knives. I think it’s a nice touch that distinguishes the CCC knives from all the others that Case makes.
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Re: I know it is probably obvious, but even if a knife has a certificate of authenticity it doesn't mean it's legitimate

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Sharpnshinyknives wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 7:26 pm I owned every Case Collector’s Club knife that was made up until 2011. Case use to put these first club knives on a plaque with a COA on the back of the plaque. I know that started in 1980 or 1981 I forget the first year of the CCC. So I am not so certain of the origins of these COA’s. Case still gives COA’s with their club knives, I know, I am still buying CCC knives since I am a life member and every knife I buy from the club has a COA. I for one appreciate having these and I keep all of them and when I sell a club knife I include the COA, box, keychain, tin or anything else that CCC puts with these knives. I think it’s a nice touch that distinguishes the CCC knives from all the others that Case makes.
That's very cool :D. Also, I'm so glad we have sellers who are active with the community like you. Sellers are a large part of the reason this site can survive.
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Re: I know it is probably obvious, but even if a knife has a certificate of authenticity it doesn't mean it's legitimate

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So...speaking of Certificates Of Authenticity...and their (questionable) value...I have to ask: What good is a COA that has an obvious, egregious error on it? ::shrug::

Check out this one I got recently that came with the limited (millennium) edition 2000 Case 21st Century Collection. A friend gave me the zippered storage case (s/n 106 of 500 according to the fancy brass plate) with no knives inside, just the COA. This is the second Millennium Edition COA I've had...the first one I gave away because the only knife I own from the set, an 8207 MOP Mini Trapper, is incorrectly identified on the COA as a "Pearl Pen."

So, what good is a COA with such a blatant error on it? Is the COA inaccurate (and therefore, actually a certificate of inauthenticity ::hmm:: ), or have I actually been collecting Pen Knives all this time mistakenly thinking I was collecting Mini Trappers?? ::facepalm:: ::dang:: ::doh::

Generally speaking, I don't give a rat's anal sphincter about COAs...but, to OCD Monkey, this is precisely the kind of detail that drives him bananas. :x :evil: ::cb:: ::poke:: ::smack:: ::cr:: ::censored:: ::cuss:: ::not_saying::

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Now I can't help but wonder if there are any other errors on this COA? (such as that "6151SS Large Chestnut Trapper...is there a large, single blade trapper pattern #51? or two pattern numbers for a Chestnut Pen, 27 & 42?) :?
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And another thing...The COA first states there are fifty (50) of the most popular knife patterns, but then a bit later states that only ten (10) patterns with five (5) different handle materials were used in this set. By my count, there are clearly more than ten but fewer than fifty different patterns...Very confusing. :?
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