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Another unusual WHITTLER with a punch blade, slanted and pinched bolsters, three back springs, and etched.
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Fabulous Ben, great vintage stuff.
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How about a 32734 gunstock WHITTLER with a spey blade stamped FOR CUTTING FLESH ONLY?
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Three incredible whittlers, doglegg! Just for pedantry's sake, and to help in identifying the knives, by those photos I'm about 85% sure that the 6355 is actually a Case Classics whittler built by Queen on the same frame as that sweet S&M. I suspect if you measured the two they'd be real close in every way. The "real" Case seahorse whittler seems to have a more slender and serpentine frame than the stouter Queen/CC/S&M version, stance of the Wharnie blade when opened is also significantly different, different secondary blade profiles, etc. I grabbed a similar photo of one of my own Cases and eyeballed them bolster-to-bolster so you can see the differences.doglegg wrote:Just for comparison sake, GEC 57, Case 6355 and Schatt and Morgen 43 1/2. The 57 is the smallest and the 431/2 slightly the largest. The Case is the smoothest. All 3 great knives.DSCN4072.JPGDSCN4073.JPG
I don't have any of those sweet Queens or a GEC whittler (yet) to do a size comparison, sadly. The Case is a hair over 4" closed.
Dale covered the origin and meaning of the mark. I just want to use this opportunity to show off my Wadsworth XLNT Barlow.OLDE CUTLER wrote:I picked up this bone handled whittler over the weekend. It is marked A. W. Wadsworth & Son Germany. It has the usual whittler layout with the 3 blades and tapered back, but this one has a double sided file in place of one of the smaller pen blades. Also stamped on the back of the blades is a large X with the letters X over L N over T stamped within the large X. Anyone familiar with what this means?
Jacknifeben wrote:Very old Lockback , Stag, whittler He is in the history book.
Jacknifeben wrote:Another unusual WHITTLER with a punch blade, slanted and pinched bolsters, three back springs, and etched.
My friend, you come up with some ridiculous knives. I am in awe.Jacknifeben wrote:How about a 32734 gunstock WHITTLER with a spey blade stamped FOR CUTTING FLESH ONLY?
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When you have been collecting knives as long as me I had some advantages. There not as many old knives out there any more.
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It is a Case Classic, Tony. Indeed upon closer inspection you are right on the S&M and the Case Classic. and the Seahorse is a more delicate knife. Thanks.Tsar Bomba wrote:Three incredible whittlers, doglegg! Just for pedantry's sake, and to help in identifying the knives, by those photos I'm about 85% sure that the 6355 is actually a Case Classics whittler built by Queen on the same frame as that sweet S&M. I suspect if you measured the two they'd be real close in every way. The "real" Case seahorse whittler seems to have a more slender and serpentine frame than the stouter Queen/CC/S&M version, stance of the Wharnie blade when opened is also significantly different, different secondary blade profiles, etc. I grabbed a similar photo of one of my own Cases and eyeballed them bolster-to-bolster so you can see the differences.doglegg wrote:Just for comparison sake, GEC 57, Case 6355 and Schatt and Morgen 43 1/2. The 57 is the smallest and the 431/2 slightly the largest. The Case is the smoothest. All 3 great knives.DSCN4072.JPGDSCN4073.JPG
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I don't have any of those sweet Queens or a GEC whittler (yet) to do a size comparison, sadly. The Case is a hair over 4" closed.
29903837665_a373308ecc_o.jpgDale covered the origin and meaning of the mark. I just want to use this opportunity to show off my Wadsworth XLNT Barlow.OLDE CUTLER wrote:I picked up this bone handled whittler over the weekend. It is marked A. W. Wadsworth & Son Germany. It has the usual whittler layout with the 3 blades and tapered back, but this one has a double sided file in place of one of the smaller pen blades. Also stamped on the back of the blades is a large X with the letters X over L N over T stamped within the large X. Anyone familiar with what this means?
xlntbarlow.jpgJacknifeben wrote:Very old Lockback , Stag, whittler He is in the history book.Jacknifeben wrote:Another unusual WHITTLER with a punch blade, slanted and pinched bolsters, three back springs, and etched.My friend, you come up with some ridiculous knives. I am in awe.Jacknifeben wrote:How about a 32734 gunstock WHITTLER with a spey blade stamped FOR CUTTING FLESH ONLY?
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I found these two whittlers at a flea market down in Iowa over the weekend. Neither of them are pristine, but usable.
Miller Brothers 3 3/4" with tapered back, and either rosewood or ebony screw retained handles. Hibbard, Spencer, and Bartlett -OVB, 3 5/16" whittler, tapered back, with MOP handles. Has a couple of handle chips missing, but still a usable little knife. One of the small blades has a double sided file instead of the usual pen blade. There is a little bit of the OVB blade etch remaining on the master blade. Not real choice, but I couldn't pass on it for $5.
Miller Brothers 3 3/4" with tapered back, and either rosewood or ebony screw retained handles. Hibbard, Spencer, and Bartlett -OVB, 3 5/16" whittler, tapered back, with MOP handles. Has a couple of handle chips missing, but still a usable little knife. One of the small blades has a double sided file instead of the usual pen blade. There is a little bit of the OVB blade etch remaining on the master blade. Not real choice, but I couldn't pass on it for $5.
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Very knice OC, along with the knives from the other post.
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I don't know what to make of this whittler. There is no tang stamp on the two larger blades, only on the awl blade is there a stamp, "Paxton & Gallagher Omaha", but I am not sure if that blade belongs to this knife. I bought this at a flea market over the weekend and am wondering if the awl blade has replaced a broken blade. It is a sleeveboard whittler, bone handled, nickle silver bolster with steel pins, brass liners, 3 5/8" overall closed length. The usual whittler pattern is followed, the two smaller blades each have their own springs, with the main blade using both of the springs. The awl has a matchstrike pull. There is no tapered center divider. I am questioning if it is original with the blades the way they are now ?
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All of us NFL fans are familiar with the phrase "Upon further review". I am using that phrase here after spending some time looking at the inside with a good light and a loupe, and have come to the conclusion that the Paxton & Gallagher whittler that I pictured above is original. It has an offset bend in the awl that pairs with a spacer at the rear, and the spacer between the two smaller blades is also accounted for. I had thought that because the original steel pins were protruding slightly that it may have been apart. But I think the knife had gotten loose and someone hammered on the steel pins without a slacker in an attempt to tighten it up. The double spring pressure on the master blade sure makes it hard to open, but it is still kind of a neat old knife.
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Definitely a rarity, I have never even encountered that stamp/maker and I certainly have never seen an old whittler with a punch on it before.
I guess that's another interpretation of a "carpenter's whittler" if you want to put a name on it.,
I guess that's another interpretation of a "carpenter's whittler" if you want to put a name on it.,
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I really like the looks of that sleeveboard whittler OC. Love the jigging pattern, bone color and shield shape.... classic styling.
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I picked up this whittler today at a local pawn shop for a few bucks. It is an American Shear & Knife Co. 4 1/4" tapered back. Unfortunately it has a lot of pitting on the blades and one of the pen blades is tipped, but it snaps like a bear trap on all three blades, handles are good ebony, and the shield is really nice. The blades are full, so I will sharpen it up and carry it. Goins says American Shear & Knife was from 1851-1911.
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That is a very nice old knife! I would call that pitting a very minor issue. Grind the tipped blade into a coping blade and it will be better than new.OLDE CUTLER wrote:I picked up this whittler today at a local pawn shop for a few bucks. It is an American Shear & Knife Co. 4 1/4" tapered back. Unfortunately it has a lot of pitting on the blades and one of the pen blades is tipped, but it snaps like a bear trap on all three blades, handles are good ebony, and the shield is really nice. The blades are full, so I will sharpen it up and carry it. Goins says American Shear & Knife was from 1851-1911.
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OC, I like the looks of that old knife even with its scars.
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I believe there is a thread for this manufacturer and that one I expect would be most welcome OC.
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Thanks, I will post it there too.wlf wrote:I believe there is a thread for this manufacturer and that one I expect would be most welcome OC.
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Iman, you have a keeper there. Great scales and classic design.
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I've always preferred the beefier sheepsfoot blade of a stockman than the coping blade of a whittler in a medium frame knife, but have managed to keep a couple really exceptional ones ... a 6380 and a 6347 Select. THe tapered backspring and resulting thin feel of whittlers is a big advantage for me ...
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Here is the most slender Whittler i have, a 3 1/4" silver Mappin & Webb Trustworthy from early 1900's. Mappin & Webb was in the same league as Jos. Rodgers during the Sheffield era. The Hallmarks show: sterling silver, from Sheffield in 1909. V. neat knife.
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