It's In The Mail

[New_Windsor_NY]

You're making great progress Skip. The wood handle may be a little more difficult to come by but with your tenacity, I'm sure you'll nail it.

Thank you Jerry. I love this, I really do. Did Case ever make a 72 variation?

Not to my knowledge. Close but no cigar. I'm very specific when it comes to 72 clones. Must be 3-5/8" closed. Must be swell center pattern. Must have the proper blade compliment. If someone else wants to deviate, that's their business, just don't try to pass it off to me as a 72 clone.

I agree completely. I've seen a few that were tempting, but upon VERY close examination, they turned out to be nice looking stockman knives. I've gotten much much better at detecting the wannabes. But, if I screw up in the future, I will still get a nice knife in the end.

[New_Windsor_NY]

I just bought this one (best offer). Looked to close to being a Camillus 72 variation to pass it up. Seller says its unbranded, but I swear I see something on the tang. My eyes could be playing tricks on me, I'll find out when I receive it. The pictures are the seller's.

[jerryd6818]

Judging from the main nail pull, the handles and just the overall look of it, I'm going to say China.

[New_Windsor_NY]

Judging from the main nail pull, the handles and just the overall look of it, I'm going to say China.

That's what I was thinking, or maybe Pakistan, but it's still a variation. Albeit probably a very cheaply made one. I'll know for sure when I receive it. Of course I'll post better, clearer pictures. Keeping my fingers crossed...........

[cody6268]

This makes me wonder why there isn't a Rough Rider version of the 72. At least from what I see here; I think it would sell quite well. I'd buy one.

[Shearer]

Judging from the main nail pull, the handles and just the overall look of it, I'm going to say China.

That's what I was thinking, or maybe Pakistan, but it's still a variation. Albeit probably a very cheaply made one. I'll know for sure when I receive it. Of course I'll post better, clearer pictures. Keeping my fingers crossed...........

The one you have is from Pakistan.
This is one from China .

Grant

[jerryd6818]

I thought it looked a little to well made for Pakistan.

[WillyCamaro]

Really nice 72's guys.
I agree Skip, that one get's me fires going big time. The jigging is epic, some of the best I've seen on any knife. Almost make me want to take the plunge, but not yet. I got me eyeballs on some other realy nice Imperials.
Good one Jerry
Again great knives.
And me name is William.

[jerryd6818]

This makes me wonder why there isn't a Rough Rider version of the 72. At least from what I see here; I think it would sell quite well. I'd buy one.

I'm with you. I too would buy a Rough Rider 72 clone.

[carrmillus]

...I guess I'm weird(wife says yes), but if it's not a CAMILLUS "72" or the older split-spring version it just doesn't interest me!!!............. ................

[jerryd6818]

...I guess I'm weird(wife says yes), but if it's not a CAMILLUS "72" or the older split-spring version it just doesn't interest me!!!............. ................

Your wife knows you much better than any of us so I'll just have to take her opinion as gospel.

[carrmillus]

...jerry, I have to revise that statement!!...I forgot about the WALTHAM whittler you sent me!!!!..... .........

[WillyCamaro]

Another Queen for $33 just off the bay. And not a #19 this time!
It's a #1 Hawkbill in near mint condition, just a few stain spots on the blade, other wise should clean up perfectly. What gets me is the tang stamp, it's a long tale Q like on 1976 models, but has USA stamped underneath. Could be another transition of the transitions... Nice thing seller took lots of pics and only charged me $10.50 to ship. Another 2 things i just noticed, my copy of Jim Sargents American Premium Guide to Knives and Razors show the #1 only came in rosewood and black delerin, this one looks to be done in sawn bone. And it is a locking sway back, like the TL-29ers. What gives??? Transition again? Other then that I think i'm pretty happy, especially for the price!

[doglegg]

Looks to be in good condition WillyC

[cody6268]

Another Queen for $33 just off the bay. And not a #19 this time!
It's a #1 Hawkbill in near mint condition, just a few stain spots on the blade, other wise should clean up perfectly. What gets me is the tang stamp, it's a long tale Q like on 1976 models, but has USA stamped underneath. Could be another transition of the transitions... Nice thing seller took lots of pics and only charged me $10.50 to ship. Another 2 things i just noticed, my copy of Jim Sargents American Premium Guide to Knives and Razors show the #1 only came in rosewood and black delerin, this one looks to be done in sawn bone. And it is a locking sway back, like the TL-29ers. What gives??? Transition again? Other then that I think i'm pretty happy, especially for the price!

Interesting. I have an Ontario (which, while not an Old Hickory, I'm almost sure is a Queen) that uses those same handles. So, did they have a surplus of handles for Ontario knives, and sell them as regular Queens?

[New_Windsor_NY]

This morning I purchased this Imperial "deer head" pocket knife ( the first 7 pictures are the seller's). The blades "should" clean up nicely, hopefully. I bought it as a companion knife for my Kingston "deer head" pocket knife (last 2 pictures).

[New_Windsor_NY]

I just bought this one a few minutes ago. It appears to be an Ulster 63. It has 3 blades and a swelled center. The pattern #, if there is one, is not with the main tang stamp. So hopefully, it's the earlier variation with the pattern # on the other side. The pictures are the seller's. The last picture is what I'm hoping for. I will clean up the knife and repost MY pictures when I get it.

[doglegg]

Skip, that one is a steal. I put in a minimum bid on it simply on price and condition. I'm glad you got it. A really great knife especially for the price.

[New_Windsor_NY]

Skip, that one is a steal. I put in a minimum bid on it simply on price and condition. I'm glad you got it. A really great knife especially for the price.

Once again I have to thank you. Thank you!

[Shearer]

I just bought this one a few minutes ago. A, what appears to be, an Ulster 63. It has 3 blades and a swelled center. The pattern #, if there is one, is not with the main tang stamp. So hopefully, it's the earlier variation with the pattern # on the other side. The pictures are the seller's. The last picture is what I'm hoping for. I will clean up the knife and repost MY pictures when I get it.

The knife looks like it has pins through the bolsters.I would say made before 1960.They started to using the Swindon System in 1960.

Grant

[jerryd6818]

Paid for it on Friday but ecop! doesn't ship on weekends so I'll just have to wait until probably next Thursday or so to get it in hand. It's a Winchester with USA stamped on the tang but it sure looks Chinese to me (and the price supports that). I don't recall seeing any Winchester mini-trappers but my memory is getting so bad........... Maybe ~Q~ knows more about it.

Edit: Just found it on Discount Cutlery and in their description they say "Made in China".

[Shearer]

Jerry I think the knife was made in China.
Where the knife you purchased has Winchester Trade Mark USA
The ones made in the USA.
Winchester Trade Mark Manufactured in USA
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Winchester-WHI ... SwdtBdQG-X

Grant

[New_Windsor_NY]

Just bought this Camillus 72. The pictures are the seller's.

[doglegg]

Good scores Jerry and Skip!

[QTCut5]

It's a Winchester with USA stamped on the tang but it sure looks Chinese to me (and the price supports that). I don't recall seeing any Winchester mini-trappers but my memory is getting so bad........... Maybe ~Q~ knows more about it.

Edit: Just found it on Discount Cutlery and in their description they say "Made in China".

All ~Q~ knows about Winchester knives is that I've never seen a (new) made in USA Winchester knife with a retail price of $10.98! The price and the tang stamp, as you and Shearer respectively observed, suggest a Pacific Rim manufacturer.

Winchester did make at least two mini trappers (that I know of): the .22 Hornet (model #29004 1/2) for the cartridge series; and a "small" (3 3/8") Delrin handled mini trapper (model #29009)--both of which I believe were actually made by Queen:

And also model 2904 1/2 which, at 3 7/8", could be considered either a "big" mini trapper or a "medium" trapper (it's 3/8" smaller than a traditional, full-size 4 1/4" trapper, and 3/8" larger than a traditional 3.5" mini trapper--so take your pick)...which I also believe was made by Queen:

This is probably a question for another forum, but as long as we're on the subject...
Are any Winchester knives currently being manufactured in the USA?