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For any Civil War collectors: This is a 3" "Absterdam" (spelling correct), round for a Parrot rifle. I had a friend named John Owen. He and his wife both grew up in Gettysburg PA. He'd be over 100 now. He collected this round on the battlefield. When he was a kid in the 1930's it was still common to find things like this. When he died, his daughter gave it to me because I am an avid student of that chapter of our history.
The round is 7-1/2 " tall with a lead "sabot" to expand into the canon's rifling. Weight,9.5 pounds. It is believed to be of Southern manufacture due to where it was found and it's rough casting. The fuse is missing.
No idea what it's worth now, researched it 20 years ago and it was around $300 . Don't want to sell it anyway. J.O.
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COOL!!
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Hey Steve. Yeah the Parrot was a mean weapon. Highly mobile and accurate. That was an ugly affair. J.O'.
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Nice piece of history you ave, thanks for sharing that.
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What was it fired out of.?
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Cudgee: A 3 inch "Parrot Rifle" , a canon towed by a horse or mule team. I think they were cast steel light barrels with an iron reinforcing band near the breach end. Very popular on both sides. More accurate due to the rifling. The lead "sabot" (shoe) of the round would expand on firing and fill the rifle grooves to create spin on the projectile, much like the musket's "minie ball". Superior to heavy brass, smooth bored "Napoleans" with a 6 pound round shot. Parrot rounds were 9.5 pounds, 50+% bigger. I'm sure you can find a description on Wikipedia. J.O'.
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Thank you for that explanation.
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Boji wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:32 amHK P7M8 most expensive gun I've ever bought but still got it way under value. Shoots better than I do!
Had to go google that one. Nice 'ol pistol. Interesting squeeze-cocker, too.
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Chris, I was just about to ask if that's some kind of grip safety. Squeeze-cocker eh? This is the first time I've run into such a device. Interesting.
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Well, that was a lousy picture I posted last night.
The H&K is a squeeze cocker, very safe operation. No small child would be able to squeeze and pull the trigger at the same time.
I have a tough time doing it myself. I have the original case, extra magazine & paperwork. These sell on Gunbroker for north of $2500.

From the same fellow I purchased another German classic, Sig P210. The originals were Swiss mfg, Still one of the most desirable modern era
handguns. Very fine and easy shooting. Both are 9mm.

I know far more about handguns than I do about knives. My special interest is Smith & Wesson revolvers. I'll pop in occasionally with more pictures
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S&W Model 65 Ladysmith with case, .38spl or .357mag
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jerryd6818 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:24 pm Chris, I was just about to ask if that's some kind of grip safety. Squeeze-cocker eh? This is the first time I've run into such a device. Interesting.
Dang Jerry you ever heard of 1911 Colt 45 or S&W lemon squeezer revolvers.? If not remember Google is our friend. ::handshake::
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Supposedly July first I'll be able to legally carry a pistola. ::super_happy::
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Iowa's Governor signed the Permitless Carry bill today. Effective July 1.
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That Lady Smith is a sweetheart. I'm secure enough in my masculinity that I'd have no trouble whatsoever packing that gem. ::tu:: :lol:
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philco wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 2:35 am That Lady Smith is a sweetheart. I'm secure enough in my masculinity that I'd have no trouble whatsoever packing that gem. ::tu:: :lol:
I'm an active member on one of the S&W forums, several guys have admitted to owning/carrying a Ladysmith.
Me, the guns I shoot the most are former LE guns, a couple of Model 66s.
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I carry a model 60 and love it. ::tu:: ::tu::
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Boji wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:37 am Iowa's Governor signed the Permitless Carry bill today. Effective July 1.
Just in time for Creepy Joe, Nitwit Nancy, Clueless Chuck, The Giggle Queen and their followers to make all law-abiding gun owners criminals. ::barf::

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bighomer wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:20 am
Dang Jerry you ever heard of 1911 Colt 45 or S&W lemon squeezer revolvers.? If not remember Google is our friend. ::handshake::
Nope. I guess I've led a sheltered life.
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bighomer wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:20 am
jerryd6818 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:24 pm Chris, I was just about to ask if that's some kind of grip safety. Squeeze-cocker eh? This is the first time I've run into such a device. Interesting.
Dang Jerry you ever heard of 1911 Colt 45 or S&W lemon squeezer revolvers.? If not remember Google is our friend. ::handshake::

My Colt O1980-XSE has what I think they call a Beavertail safety, has to be squeezed to be fired. I thought maybe all "Modern" 1911s were made like that? ::shrug::
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Ridgegrass wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:54 pm For any Civil War collectors: This is a 3" "Absterdam" (spelling correct), round for a Parrot rifle. I had a friend named John Owen. He and his wife both grew up in Gettysburg PA. He'd be over 100 now. He collected this round on the battlefield. When he was a kid in the 1930's it was still common to find things like this. When he died, his daughter gave it to me because I am an avid student of that chapter of our history.
The round is 7-1/2 " tall with a lead "sabot" to expand into the canon's rifling. Weight,9.5 pounds. It is believed to be of Southern manufacture due to where it was found and it's rough casting. The fuse is missing.
No idea what it's worth now, researched it 20 years ago and it was around $300 . Don't want to sell it anyway. J.O.

J.O', that's really cool! Don't think I have ever seen a picture of one of these before, thanks for posting.
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They told us in boot camp that the Colt 1911 has several safeties integrated into it.

1.) must have a magazine inserted to fire
2.) Standard side to side button safety in back of the trigger
3.) Will not fire unless the slide is all the way home
4.) Grip safety

I feel like there's one more but if there is, I can't remember what it is.
Ah yes, Thumb safety (thank you Google)
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A grip cocker is a different beast than the grip safety on a 1911. The 1911’s grip safety has a lever with a notch that sits down on the trigger shoe that keeps the trigger from moving rearward and engaging the sear. If it isn’t pushed in the trigger cannot be pulled. It has nothing to do with cocking the gun.

The grip cocking lever on the H&K actually cocks the gun. Both are safety devices of a type, but work completely differently.

I’m not sure exactly how the old lemon squeezer’s grip safety works. Maybe one day I’ll get hold of one! It would be most welcome in the stable.
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RedRider: It's a neat keepsake and a great doorstop! :D J.O'.
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