The Electric Car Conundrum

[jerryd6818]

HEADS UP PEOPLE!!!!!
What's a person to do?
Imagine Florida with a hurricane coming toward Miami. The Governor orders an evacuation. All cars head north. They all need to be charged in Jacksonville. How does that work? Has anyone thought about this? If all cars were electric, and were caught up in a three-hour traffic jam with dead batteries, then what? Not to mention that there is virtually no heating or air conditioning in an electric vehicle because of high battery consumption.
If you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating, no windshield wipers, no radio, no GPS (all these drain the batteries), all you can do is try calling 911 to take women and children to safety. But they cannot come to help you because all roads are blocked, and they will probably require all police cars will be electric also. When the roads become unblocked no one can move! Their batteries are dead.
How do you charge the thousands of cars in the traffic jam? Same problem during summer vacation departures with miles of traffic jams. There would be virtually no air conditioning in an electric vehicle. It would drain the batteries quickly. Where is this electricity going to come from? Today's grid barely handles users' needs. Can't use nuclear, natural gas is quickly running out. Oil fired is out of the question, then where?
What will be done with billions of dead batteries, can’t bury them in the soil, can’t go to landfills.
The cart is way ahead of the horse.
No thought whatsoever to handle any of the problems that batteries can cause.
The liberal press doesn't want to talk or report on any of this.
In France, thousands of taxis are now stored as inoperable because the batteries are dead and to replace them would cost more than the value of the vehicle itself!

[herbva]

I'm buying a horse.

[Montanaman]

Electric vehicles are not the answer, right now. My wife is an electrical engineer that specializes in the western grid and the WECC, Western Electric Coordinating Council. There is a lot of talk from many in the automorive industry about the mining for the rare earth elements for batterys and battery life, child labor and worse. Here is a good one about Rivian from Donut,

[eveled]

That’s the way it works. The government mandates something be done with no thought of what is really needed to get it done. Leaving manufacturers, municipalities, and the American people to figure it out.

Same thing happens at work. Corporate comes up with a plan. The workers come up with all the what if’s. The corporate puppets say don’t worry we will cross that bridge when we get to it.

Trouble is when the what if scenario happens there is no plan and lives are at risk. The corporate morons are at home and just expect us to deal with it.

As always try to be prepared. You alone are responsible for your families well being. Take it seriously.

I have a mechanically injected diesel pickup truck and between 300 and 600 gallons of fuel oil at all times.

I won’t get into any other preparations but I sleep well at night.

[Samb]

Probably have world war lll when all the rich people can't sell the gas. Alot to think about.

[fergusontd]

I heard that electric cars can only go 300 miles on a charge and it takes 3 hrs. to charge. My daughter lives out west about 900 miles to visit it would take about 3 days to get there if you could even find a place to charge it. ftd

[WillyCamaro]

You hit the nail on the head squid; governments do, what governments do, and the rest of us are left to clean their messes up...
Like I say constantly, they live in another world, separate from the rest of us ordinary grunts.

The war on us disabled, through the overdose epidemic, is just one example of bureaucratic incompetence; another that quickly comes to mind, the dept overload.

That's what happens when you have a bunch of fools, elected in by a bunch of fools. Like I also say, be careful who you vote for people! It'll come back around to bite you in the rear...

[Captain O]

Let's look at history:

a. During 1944 through 1945 the Nazis were powering their Luftwaffe with gasoline distilled from organic waste. (No fuel coming from the Persian Gulf).
b. We produce enough organic waste to produce gasoline for far more cars/trucks/aircraft etc. than we really understand.
c. Even at our more advanced rate of consumption there is enough oil on earth to keep us in gasoline for the next 400 years.
d. CO2 is NOT a "pollutant". It is used by plant life to produce oxygen. Get over it.
e. "Man-made Climate Change" is a hoax. Humans have always adapted for the purpose of survival. We always have and always will.

We are not in control of our climate. (Humans are the only species that have the unmitgated temerity to believe that they are truly in control of the climate/weather).

There you have it.

[Beavertail]

The latest entry to reduce the carbon footprint.

[charlesf20]

I'm buying a horse.

This I like.

[charlesf20]

The latest entry to reduce the carbon footprint.

Great idea!

[1967redrider]

The current range doesn't make one a viable option for me, Jerry. @ 140 miles to the farm.

[Jeffinn]

The electrical infrastructure isn’t ready to handle a country full of electric vehicles. If you like to travel, you’d have to start mapping out where the charging stations are, then plan on making stops in those locations to recharge. About every 6 hours you’d be stopping and probably laying over in whatever town you happen to be in. Even if you know where the charging station are, there’s no way of knowing if one will be available when you get there.
Electric vehicles would be an okay choice for around town driving but would just present too many challenges for any long road trips.
Jeff

[Beavertail]

How much does it cost to charge an electric car?

[eveled]

They make sense for some people. Like the ones who get to charge free at work. But for other people they are not a viable option at all.

Why the government insists on shoving them down our throats is beyond me.

[Captain O]

They make sense for some people. Like the ones who get to charge free at work. But for other people they are not a viable option at all.

Why the government insists on shoving them down our throats is beyond me.

Because they can. (We let them get by with this BS).

[jerryd6818]

Is this the first thing the government has tried to stuff down our throats? I think not..

[treefarmer]

Love our "electric car", it's 24 years old and we've been driving it for over 12 years.

Redneck Electric Car

I know this is not what we are actually discussing but this thing works for what it was designed and modified to do. A few rambling thoughts on this issue:

Technology will continue to improve, batteries will also improve and charging times will be reduced.

A daily driver to a job in town and back home might be practical but with any lengthy trip the apparent troubles have already been pointed out.

Our local Walmart has a charging station and in the 4 or 5 years it has been there I've only seen one car plugged in and charging. I'm sure there are others but not on a regular basis.

Charging our cart is done nightly after use. Sometimes it goes a few days between charges especially with light use.

I remember reading where Ford built an electric Mustang that had an audio system that created the purr of the exhaust systems we all enjoy hearing.

We'll probably not be buying a real electric car in the time we have left here on earth.

Can you imagine the scope of the electrical job to construct charging stations across our country?

What is going to power the generators to provide enough power to run all these electric vehicles?
Treefarmer

[PigStikr]

Don't worry about that your goverment will fix it or figure it out for you sooner or later look how good they do with the coronie virus they can make anything work as soon as they cheat & lie to you long enough....

[eveled]

In the 70’s & 80’s the government made impossible to attain pollution mandates on the car industry. It was a nightmare horsepower dropped prices went up. The engineers struggled with it for years and now we finally have clean running cars that have lots of power. If the government hadn’t made the mandates we’d still be driving with the old technology.

Ironically we finally have fossil fuels optimized and now they want to stop using it all together.

So in theory the government will make the mandates the manufacturers will struggle to get it done. We will overcome all the obstacles and life will be better. Have faith in the system people. It won’t be easy but we wil get through it.

Imagine the payoff. If they dial in the battery technology lighter stronger faster charging. The highways will be almost silent. No fumes whatsoever. More national independence from foreign oil. This is a turning point for us.

[PigStikr]

Shut up to me!!!!!

[eveled]

I don’t understand your post. If it has anything to do with my post or if you think I was attacking you. I wasn’t.

[Boji]

What I saw once was ironic, a diesel generator to run an EV charging station. It was somewhere in Arizona.

[edge213]

Nothing will get done right with this current administration.
Rare earth metals are needed for the batteries. Creepy Joe signs a moratorium on the mining of rare earth metals for the U.S.
Then Hunter Biden helps the Chinese buy large mines in Africa. Hunter made millions.
How much did Joe get to make sure this happened?

[OLDE CUTLER]

GM and Ford are already planning their coming bankrupcies.