Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

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DM11 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:00 am New York Knife Co and a Waterville Cutlery Co Pruning knives.
2 good ones! ::tu:: ::tu::
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Waukonda wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:18 am
DM11 wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:00 am New York Knife Co and a Waterville Cutlery Co Pruning knives.
2 good ones! ::tu:: ::tu::
Thank you Ike.
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David, you are on a roll. Great knives. ::tu:: ::tu::
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doglegg wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:09 am David, you are on a roll. Great knives. ::tu:: ::tu::
Thank you Floyd.
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Enclosed are two more pocket pruners with secateurs. The left is marked Joseph Rodgers and while a bit different in form, it does have the same secateurs mechanism as Miller Bros' Wostenholm Amgar model. The model on the right is marked "Wade & Butcher" and is the same type as those shown by Ridgegrass and Miller Bros. Interesting to learn from Ridgegrass that the 715810 registration number dates to 1925. In searching through English cutlery patents from 1920 to 1930, it doesn't appears that either the Amgar (or J. Rodgers) or the variations with the 715810 numbers were ever actually patented. There are similar models to these though patented in the late 1800s and early 1900s by J. Watts in England.
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Mason, Great knives! You probably already know, and I found out when researching, the Brits have an "RD" number which is a 'Registered Design". The RD is not always patented. Different from our system. ::shrug:: I think I recall the other RD# (AMGAR?) was 1928-29. Lots of fun digging into those knives. J.O'.
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Two prime examples! ::tu:: ::tu::
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Thanks, Ridgegrass and Miller Bros.
I enjoy the information and discussions from you guys and others as much as the knives themselves.
Here is an English W. Saynor knife sitting on a horticulture book from England printed in 1898.
The same model with the same blade stamp is shown on the right page.
The English certainly produced some fine pruning knives.
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Wow, that's cool! ::tu::
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Very nice knife and a great book!

Here's one I recently picked up that looks just like the one in your book ::tu::
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Thanks DM11 and M.B.
That's a wonderful Saynor as well Miller Bros.
Saynor specialized in all forms of pruning knives and other pruning articles.
Enclosed is another Saynor model with some beautiful stag.
The factory paperwork shows some various pruning knives and other items from Saynor.
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Mason wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:44 pm That's a wonderful Saynor as well Miller Bros.
Saynor specialized in all forms of pruning knives and other pruning articles.
Enclosed is another Saynor model with some beautiful stag.
The factory paperwork shows some various pruning knives and other items from Saynor.
Thank you ::handshake::

I like that billhead, it has some very interesting items shown ::tu::
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Miller Bro's wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:05 pm
Mason wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:44 pm That's a wonderful Saynor as well Miller Bros.
Saynor specialized in all forms of pruning knives and other pruning articles.
Enclosed is another Saynor model with some beautiful stag.
The factory paperwork shows some various pruning knives and other items from Saynor.
Thank you ::handshake::

I like that billhead, it has some very interesting items shown ::tu::
Thanks, the ephemera and other related items are certainly harder to find than the knives themselves, as you well know.
And you have some great miscellanea. ::tu::
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Very nice knives, MB and Mason. Here are 2 I just picked up. Etched Cattaraugus, first one I’ve ever seen and a F.A. Wolff with GARANTIE under the name. Probably German
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Mason: Say "ello" to your first cousin. 4-5/8, Integral, filed and rat-tailed bolsters. Blade stamped SAYNOR, tang stamped "Sheffield, England", reverse tang stamped, "SAYNOR & COOKE & RIDAL" H.Price says c.1840-1868. One of my favorites. Wish the old boy could talk. :D J.O'.
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Galvanic: That Catt is right out of the catalog. I'm a Catt guy and a Hawkbill collector so that one shakes all my trees! Lucky you. ::tu:: ::tu:: J.O'.
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Something to ponder: If the cutler who made our Saynors Hawks was 30 years old in 1868 when they went out of business, he'd be 183 years old today. Fun to think about that when you're holding that knife. What a true connection to the past! J.O'.
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Good ones Galvanic1882 and Ridgegrass! ::tu::
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Van Camp Hardware, Schrade Cut Co, Utica
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They are Sweet!
I am the Hawk addict. I posted these back in the fall. Been collecting them since they could be had for a couple bucks each. My favorite pattern.
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This just recently joined my "general" CAMILLUS pocket knife collection. It is a CAMILLUS 1, single blade, hawkbill, 4" closed, liner lock, short line tang stamp pocket knife (1946-1950). Surprisingly, it's the only #1 that I have.
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New_Windsor_NY wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:18 pm This just recently joined my "general" CAMILLUS pocket knife collection. It is a CAMILLUS 1, single blade, hawkbill, 4" closed, liner lock, short line tang stamp pocket knife (1946-1950). Surprisingly, it's the only #1 that I have.
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Papa Bones wrote: Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:35 pm Very.....
Thank you Smitty.🍻
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Yesterday this arrived and it got added to my "general" CAMILLUS pocket knife collection. This is NOT the same #1 that I posted back on June 5 (3 posts above this one). It's another CAMILLUS 1, single blade, hawkbill, 4" closed, liner lock, short line tang stamp pocket knife (1946-1950). Not the prettiest #1 that I've seen, but certainly not the ugliest #1 that I've seen either. It still has a lot of life left in it. It did need some cleaning, I did what I could. I took some pictures and here it is.
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