Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

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kootenay joe wrote:Some fine very old knives being posted. Lee's Billhook is a fine survivor, could easily be a 200 yr old knife.
Here is one i just fopund in my basement. I put it there some years ago because the blade looks rusted beyond saving. But today it spoke to me so i took some pictures. "H & J.W. King Warranted 1869". King was an importer so this might have come from Germany. Liners & bolsters are integral. Note the big swell of handle towards the butt. Snaps are all very crisp, has a half stop and no play, solid in open position. Pretty good for 150 years old.
Any advice on getting the 'scale' off the blade ?
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Thanks for comment on Billhook - it is an oldie - some followup research indicates to me 1850 or later and most likely Italian in origin... though probably somehow imported and used here in the Northeast based on where and how it was found...

KJ - That is an old pruner for sure ::tu:: - I know you mention possibly Germany but I wouldn’t know - I haven’t seen too many German made Hawkbills but not ones I would collect ... I’m not familiar with that stamp at all... but in terms of cleaning that knife it is pretty far gone.. looks to be very deep pitting and corrosion - I think buffing it to death may not even work :) ... personally I rather see it like this than a shiny and lousy facsimile of a knife!

I’m still sticking to pre-1860 for integrated liners/bolsters as I still have not seen many later examples and certainly none after 1900 despite that conjecture in another thread ....
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I think this one has integral liners/bolsters and it was made in 1869. Goins has some info on this brand.
I was not thinking of buffing, more like rubbing or flicking off the superficial scale that covers both blade surfaces.
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I made a separate post about this old Keen Kutter K136 pruner in "Knife Q&A" but I fiqured I'd run some photos of it here amongst these other great pruning and Horticultural knives. Enjoy!
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Great looking Hawkbill Robo ::tu:: ::tu:: ... the etch on a Hawkbill is very cool and not something often seen 8) ... Thanks for sharing it in this thread!!
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LongBlade wrote:Great looking Hawkbill Robo ::tu:: ::tu:: ... the etch on a Hawkbill is very cool and not something often seen 8) ... Thanks for sharing it in this thread!!

My Pleasure, Lee!
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My friend send me this pictures. Has anyone seen something like this?
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Very interesting knife Eustace ::tu:: ::tu:: ... I can’t tell from photos but is that a spud used to graft on the back end of knife or is it just an extension of the handle? Not sure from where it originated but looks European in style...
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I'm almost sure it's French. The stamp is "aparie" or "aparis"
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I believe your correct Eustace as the stamp appears French ::tu:: - I didn’t pay attention to the stamp ::facepalm:: ... looks like a folding billhook (aka pruner) that has the handle open from a folding extension... pretty cool 8) ...
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Does it have 1 blade and 2 springs ?
Does the handle extension fold closed when blade is open to keep blade locked open ?
"Aparie" makes me think of bee keeping.
Never seen anything like it.
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Hi. I enlarged the stamp/mark in your last photo. The last 2 "figures" look like numbers, not letters. Maybe a 15 and not is or ir?
Just an observation. ::shrug::
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My GEO. SCHRADE pruner.
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I knew a man from Mexico named, "Aparis".

So, I suppose your knife could be Spanish.

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My latest pruner, this Geo Schrade. It's almost identical to the one I posted above, except the advertising is engraved/stamped into the blade, not etched on the blade like the previous knife. The tang stamps are different also.
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American Knife Co,. Thomaston. 1875-1895 - 4 3/8" closed.
It has earned all it's scars.
The same can be said for its neighbor, one town over, American Knife Co., Plymouth. 1849-1875 - 4 3/8" closed.
Great old Connecticut knives and stamps.
There is an interesting bit of history in Goin's encyclopedia about these two companies and the towns themselves,
including Northfield Knife Co.
I live in Plymouth.

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Flea market this morning was poor. The gypsies are apparently on vacation too. However, I took one knife for the next POS roundtable.
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That looks like a good candidate!Way to look ahead also.I'm always scrambling to find those special knives when the time comes.
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The three amigos.
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Today's find from the flea market. Grafrath brothers, Solingen. Perfect mechanics, the spring is like a wolf trap. Unfortunately, the corrosion is too deep. For a dollar - that's all you are going to get.
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Eustace wrote:Flea market this morning was poor. The gypsies are apparently on vacation too. However, I took one knife for the next POS roundtable.
Eustace wrote:Today's find from the flea market. Grafrath brothers, Solingen. Perfect mechanics, the spring is like a wolf trap. Unfortunately, the corrosion is too deep. For a dollar - that's all you are going to get.
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Very good looking knives. The Grafrath Brothers is not bad looking at all. Especially for one dollar!
Are the gypsies back from vacation? :D ::tu::
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:lol: In fact, gypsies are always there, аnd sometimes they sell interesting things at reasonable prices.. Gone are serious sellers who offer quality things, but not for dollar.
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It took me awhile to find one for my horticultural knife collection but finally found a Pecan budding knife (finally took some photos)... The knife is actually called a Maher & Grosh Texas Patch Budder and not sure who the contract cutlery was for it... perhaps Schrade but the bolsters are slightly different from the example I found online made by Schrade. I looked long and far for one made by a CT or MA maker but never saw a pecan patch budder and not sure what companies made them... I wonder if pecan budders were made in Sheffield as well ::hmm:: though not for M&G. I know Millers Bros made knives for M&G but don't know if Miller Bros made pecan budders.

This one is a strong snapping solid knife... signs of wear and use but those blades are still razor sharp. Handle are cocobolo is my guess (but not sure if it may be ebony ::hmm:: ).. Tang stamp is visible if you click to enlarge the open blade photos. Blades are located approximately an inch apart and thus it would cut a 1 inch square patch for grafting. Perfect knife to cut consistent patches for grafting among the Pecan trees...

If one has a premium subscription to Knife Magazine there is a M&G Horticultural knife Catalog from 1927 and this knife is shown. It said M&G was the sole retailers and it is a favorite among Pecan growers... Interestingly this knife originated from Louisiana which is one of the Pecan growing states.

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Very nice Lee, thanks for sharing, I have never seen one of those before now!!! ::tu:: ::tu::
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Thanks Bill ::handshake:: ...
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A unusual and very cool knife.
Good show, Lee. ::tu::
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