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Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:21 pm
by Miller Bro's
Here's a giant.

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:12 pm
by LongBlade
Dimitri - you're pulling out all the stops now :D - That is nice large hawkbill - one heck of a blade ::tu:: ::tu:: Spring loaded? Or is that just a blade lock off the bolster?

Hope you don't mind me asking or guessing as to location of origin - Spanish or Eastern European? Or neither :lol: ... Interestingly I haven't seen many German hawkbills but that would not be my guess here ::hmm:: ... How about dating of this big boy - early to mid 1900s?

To me I enjoy you sharing these for multiple reasons especially when I am seeing something different and an unknown - good way to learn and good to store away in the ol' noggin for future reference :wink:

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:37 pm
by Miller Bro's
LongBlade wrote:Dimitri - you're pulling out all the stops now - That is nice large hawkbill - one heck of a blade Spring loaded? Or is that just a blade lock off the bolster?
Thanks Lee! No not spring loaded just a conventional back spring and that is a lock to keep it open.
LongBlade wrote:Hope you don't mind me asking or guessing as to location of origin - Spanish or Eastern European? Or neither ... Interestingly I haven't seen many German hawkbills but that would not be my guess here ... How about dating of this big boy - early to mid 1900s?
Don't mind at all I welcome questions ::tu:: There are no marks on this knife at all but I have seen many with French and Spanish marks, so either one would be a good guess as to where it was made. As to a date pre 1930 is as close as I can get.
LongBlade wrote:To me I enjoy you sharing these for multiple reasons especially when I am seeing something different and an unknown - good way to learn and good to store away in the ol' noggin for future reference
Lee, I am glad to share my collection on this forum and glad you are learning as I am sure many others are :D I also really appreciate the time you, and the handful of others, take to reply to just about every post someone makes in this forum ::handshake:: :D :D

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:46 am
by wlf
I have a French knife that Dimitri identified, he got lucky :) , that’s got a very hooked hawkbill.

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:20 am
by LongBlade
Dimitri - ::handshake:: .. Thanks again!! The sharing and knowledge is indeed appreciated by a number of us ::tu:: ...

Lyle - Given all the vineyards in France I can see a big need for hawkbills :) ... When I think about French knives I think most I have seen were horticultural and hawbills.. ::nod::

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:15 pm
by Meridian_Mike
Miller Bro's wrote: Here's a giant.
Well..... I recon so!

MAN, what a knife! I bet that joker can cut off a big ole limb.
(even a human limb if you aint careful......)

Mike
:shock:

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:44 pm
by BWT
George Butler picked this up a couple of weeks ago and never posted it.

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:46 pm
by JohnR
Nice one Bill, looks like as had little use.

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:33 pm
by BWT
Thanks John, I have thought about cleaning it a little.

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:49 pm
by djknife13
Miller Bro's wrote:Here's a giant.
Dimitri, I have almost the same knife except an inch shorter and horn scales. Mine has "Vincent" over a line dash line, and then a last name I can't read that looks like FKRRAB--. I've never been able to figure out the name of country. I have a number of smaller ones with no name and without steel liners, some lockbacks and some slip joints. I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that they were French and possibly Italian. ___Dave

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:24 pm
by Miller Bro's
BWT wrote:George Butler picked this up a couple of weeks ago and never posted it.
Bill, that's a beauty love the horn handles ::tu:: 8)

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:33 pm
by Miller Bro's
djknife13 wrote:Dimitri, I have almost the same knife except an inch shorter and horn scales. Mine has "Vincent" over a line dash line, and then a last name I can't read that looks like FKRRAB--. I've never been able to figure out the name of country. I have a number of smaller ones with no name and without steel liners, some lockbacks and some slip joints. I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that they were French and possibly Italian. ___Dave

If you can get me a clear picture of that knife and stamp I may be able to help you identify it. Would also like to see pictures of the other ones you mentioned! ::tu::

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:35 pm
by Miller Bro's
wlf wrote:I have a French knife that Dimitri identified, he got lucky :) , that’s got a very hooked hawkbill.
Thanks it's certainly different.

Yeah I've been known to get lucky once in a blue moon :wink:

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:46 pm
by LongBlade
BWT wrote:George Butler picked this up a couple of weeks ago and never posted it.
That’s a beauty of a Hawkbill Bill ::tu:: ::tu:: ... nice full blade with stamp & horn handles - nice score ::nod:: ....

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:24 pm
by djknife13
Miller Bro's wrote:
djknife13 wrote:Dimitri, I have almost the same knife except an inch shorter and horn scales. Mine has "Vincent" over a line dash line, and then a last name I can't read that looks like FKRRAB--. I've never been able to figure out the name of country. I have a number of smaller ones with no name and without steel liners, some lockbacks and some slip joints. I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that they were French and possibly Italian. ___Dave

If you can get me a clear picture of that knife and stamp I may be able to help you identify it. Would also like to see pictures of the other ones you mentioned! ::tu::
Thanks, I'll try to get one tomorrow when I have good light. ____Dave

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:33 pm
by danno50
That is a big one, Dimitri, very nice! ::tu:: Great old knife in good condition, BWT! ::tu:: I really like the blade stamps on some of the old Sheffield knives.

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:36 pm
by djknife13
Miller Bro's wrote:
djknife13 wrote:Dimitri, I have almost the same knife except an inch shorter and horn scales. Mine has "Vincent" over a line dash line, and then a last name I can't read that looks like FKRRAB--. I've never been able to figure out the name of country. I have a number of smaller ones with no name and without steel liners, some lockbacks and some slip joints. I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that they were French and possibly Italian. ___Dave

If you can get me a clear picture of that knife and stamp I may be able to help you identify it. Would also like to see pictures of the other ones you mentioned! ::tu::
Dimitri; Here are the knives that I have that are of similar shape as yours. I haven't been able to find the manufacture of the one I posted the stamping of. I have several hundred Hawkbills and none with a name close to this one. Thanks____Dave

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:05 am
by Miller Bro's
danno50 wrote:That is a big one, Dimitri, very nice! ::tu::
Thanks Dan!

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:24 am
by Miller Bro's
djknife13 wrote:Dimitri; Here are the knives that I have that are of similar shape as yours. I haven't been able to find the manufacture of the one I posted the stamping of. I have several hundred Hawkbills and none with a name close to this one. Thanks____Dave
Dave thanks for the pictures beautiful old knives! ::tu::

Here's what I believe it reads:

Vincent
---•---
Farrar


Vincent would be the name of the maker and " Farrar or Ferrar" is an occupational surname for a blacksmith or ironworker.

There was a John Vincent working out of London in the mid 1800's that is all the information I can provide

Hope this helps ::handshake::

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:38 am
by djknife13
Miller Bro's wrote:
djknife13 wrote:Dimitri; Here are the knives that I have that are of similar shape as yours. I haven't been able to find the manufacture of the one I posted the stamping of. I have several hundred Hawkbills and none with a name close to this one. Thanks____Dave
Dave thanks for the pictures beautiful old knives! ::tu::

Here's what I believe it reads:

Vincent
---•---
Farrar


Vincent would be the name of the maker and " Farrar or Ferrar" is an occupational surname for a blacksmith or ironworker.

There was a John Vincent working out of London in the mid 1800's that is all the information I can provide

Hope this helps ::handshake::
Yes thanks. I kept thinking it was a first and last name but what you are saying makes sense. ___Dave

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:57 am
by BWT
danno50 wrote:That is a big one, Dimitri, very nice! ::tu:: Great old knife in good condition, BWT! ::tu:: I really like the blade stamps on some of the old Sheffield knives.
Thanks Dan!!

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:59 am
by BWT
djknife13 wrote:
Miller Bro's wrote:
djknife13 wrote:Dimitri, I have almost the same knife except an inch shorter and horn scales. Mine has "Vincent" over a line dash line, and then a last name I can't read that looks like FKRRAB--. I've never been able to figure out the name of country. I have a number of smaller ones with no name and without steel liners, some lockbacks and some slip joints. I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that they were French and possibly Italian. ___Dave

If you can get me a clear picture of that knife and stamp I may be able to help you identify it. Would also like to see pictures of the other ones you mentioned! ::tu::
Dimitri; Here are the knives that I have that are of similar shape as yours. I haven't been able to find the manufacture of the one I posted the stamping of. I have several hundred Hawkbills and none with a name close to this one. Thanks____Dave
Very nice and interesting too Dave ::tu:: ::tu::

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:04 am
by LongBlade
Those are some old and beautiful Hawkbills Dave ::tu:: ::tu:: ... That is very cool having a London made Hawkbill too!!! Hawkbills are one of my favorite patterns to collect for sure and thought I had a decent number in my collection... until you said you have several hundred - WOW ::woot:: ::tu:: 8) ...

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:41 pm
by djknife13
LongBlade wrote:Those are some old and beautiful Hawkbills Dave ::tu:: ::tu:: ... That is very cool having a London made Hawkbill too!!! Hawkbills are one of my favorite patterns to collect for sure and thought I had a decent number in my collection... until you said you have several hundred - WOW ::woot:: ::tu:: 8) ...
Thanks Lee. I concentrated pretty heavily on hawkbills for several years and ended up at about 400. I've posted my best and rarest four including my two blade true split back English before but I'll probably dig them out and get a picture of them together. I even know where they are in the safe because I stumbled on them a couple days age looking for something else.____Dave

Re: Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:57 pm
by danno50
Nice ones, Dave! ::tu:: ::tu:: WOW, 400 is a lot of hawkbills!!