Old and Obscure Brands

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Beautiful knife Ike ::tu:: ::tu:: Great find!
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Waukonda wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:49 am Here is some nice old pick bone on this Ulery, etched "Loos and Dilworth, Paragon Oil Co".
Question......has anyone out there ever seen a Ulery with bone handles, or any scales other than metal?
Beautiful knife, Great piece. Love the pickbone scales and the color and that blade etch. Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
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Thank you all for the comments
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Ike, Beautiful old knife. Harold
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stockman wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:15 pm Ike, Beautiful old knife. Harold
Thank you, Harold, I appreciate that. A barehead in pick bone is just a great classic look.
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This mark appears on both blade tangs of this 4 1/2-inch English Jack: NEW ENGLAND KNIFE CO.

Goins is devoid of any information, other than making a guess that it was used as a stamp from 1910 to 1930.

It should not be confused with that of the NEW ENGLAND CUTLERY CO., a manufacturer for which there is a fair amount of information listed in Goins.
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stumpstalker wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:36 am This mark appears on both blade tangs of this 4 1/2-inch English Jack: NEW ENGLAND KNIFE CO.

Goins is devoid of any information, other than making a guess that it was used as a stamp from 1910 to 1930.

It should not be confused with that of the NEW ENGLAND CUTLERY CO., a manufacturer for which there is a fair amount of information listed in Goins.
I've had a couple over the years,that appears to be Challenge made.
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stumpstalker wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:36 am This mark appears on both blade tangs of this 4 1/2-inch English Jack: NEW ENGLAND KNIFE CO.

Goins is devoid of any information, other than making a guess that it was used as a stamp from 1910 to 1930.

It should not be confused with that of the NEW ENGLAND CUTLERY CO., a manufacturer for which there is a fair amount of information listed in Goins.
Beautiful knife. Great bones on that one. Cool to see, thanks for showing and keep them coming.
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Nice knife SS ::tu:: ::tu::
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levine says, "wholesaler" c.1910. Price says "c. 1910", nothing further. Beautiful knife. ::tu:: J.O'.
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Here's 3 of my best in the obscure category...
Sorry no tang pics...lol... I'm at work
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trail wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:51 pm Here is an updated list of the 230 knife brands represented in this thread:

A. Reinig
A.A. Fisher
A.E. Fuller
A.J. Jordan
A.W. Flint & Co.
A*1 Tyler Celebrated Cutlery
Abercrombie & Fitch
Adams & Bro
Adams & Sons
Adolph Blaich Arrow Brand
Ahapen Faacidbr (Cyrilic)
Alfred & Son Celebrated Cutlery
Alpha
Ameike
American Knife Co.
American Shear & Knife Co.
Aquila
Argyle Cutlery Co.
Ascend W.T. Stanforth
Automatic Knife Co.
Autopoint
B.B. Knife Co.
Barber Bros.
Bergman & Scuddig
Berkshire Cut. Co.
Bigelow & Dowse
Bower
Brantford Cutlery
Brighton Cutlery Works
Brown Treacy & Co.
Burkinshaw
C.F. Kayser
Camillus
Canastota Knife Co.
Car-Van S.P. Co.
Case
Catskill Knife Co.
Cattaraugus
Challenge
Charles Bradshaw
Chris Wolf
Clark Bros
Clark's XLT
Coca-Cola
Columbia
Commander/Metropolitan Cutlery
Conn. Cutlery
Constant
Cook Bros.
Corliss Cutlery Co.
Corning Knife Company
Cornwall Knife Co.
Crooks Bros.
Crucible Knife Co.
Cussins & Fearn
Dame Smith & Hall
Duane Cutlery
E C Simmons Keen Kutter
E. Renaud
E.B. Sears
E.M. Dickinson
Eagle
Edward K.Tryon
EIG Cutlery
Electric Cut Co
Elgin American Mfg. Co.
Empire
Enterprise Cutlery
Ernst Brückmann
Excelsior Knife Company
F. Herder & Son
F.D. Bast
F.GG & Sawyer
F.J.F Primastahl
Fairmount Cutlery
Fairplay Brothers
Fayban Knife Co.
Fayetteville Knife Co.
Fidelity Knife Co
Fletcher Hardware Co.
Foron
G. Gregory
G.H. Exhibition
G&J Allen Superior Cutlery
Gales & Co
Garantie Germany
Gellman Bros.
George Woodhead
GLP Co.
GML
Golden Rule Cutlery
Gonon
Great Eastern
Griffon Cutlery
H. Boker & Sons
H.& B. Mfg. Co.
H.H. Tammen Lucky Buck
H.W.Mason & Co.
Hammer Brand N Y Knife Co
Hargreaves & Co.
Hartford Cutlery
Harvey Bros
Haynes Stellite
Henderson & Co.
Henry Wilton
Herm. Konejung
Herms
Hollinger
Holly Mfg Co.
HOLMAC
Holub
Hugo Koller
Ideal Cutlery Co
Imperial
J. Dunlap
J. Pritzlaff
J. Ward
J.M. Schmid & Son
Jack Knife Ben
James Milward & Co.
John B. Rand
Jones & Son
Jorcie
Joseph Barnard & Sons
Joseph Gray & Son
Julius Ohliger
K.& B. Cutlery
Kamp Cutlery
King's Kwality
Knickerbocker Cutlery
Kresge
Krusius Bros.
Lamplough Cutlery
Lawton Cutlery
Lenox Cutlery
Lever Cutlery Co.
Lion Cutlery
Lockwood Brothers
Lord Bros.
M.C.Co. Meriden
M.Klaas
M.Y. Rogers Sons & Co.
Magnetic Cutlery Co.
Majestic Cutlery Co.
Manhattan Cut. Co.
Mcknight Cutlery
Miller Bros
Monarch
Moore - Handley
N.& Co.
Nippel
Norfolk Knife Co
North American Cutlery
Ostdiek
Paxton & Gallagher
Penn Cutlery Co.
Peter Hendrichs & Grah
Peters Bros Cut Co.
Portland Cutlery Co.
Powr-Kraft
Prentiss Knife Co.
Prolific H.B & Son
Quaker Cutlery
R. Bunting & Son
R.J. Richter
Rango Cutlery Co.
Richards & Conover Hdw. Co.
Richards Bros. & Sons
Roberts Brothers
Roberts Sheffield
Rosenbaum/Iros Keen
Rostfrei
Russell
S.& A.
S.H.K. & Co.
Saber Japan
Samco
Samuel Robinson
Schatt Morgan Cutlery Co
Schmactenberg Brothers
SCHMIDT & ZIGLER
Schrade Cut Co
Seneca Cutlery
Shumate Knife Co.
Silver Steel
Sorge
Spalding & Co. Phoenix
Sperry & Alexander
St. Lawrence Cutlery Co.
Sta-Sharp
Standard Cut. Co.
Sterling L.G.H
Stevenson
Sword & Shield
Taylor Union Cutlery
Terrier Cutlery
Thomson
Tioga Cutlery
Tonerini Scarperia
Tyler's Celebrated Cutlery
U.K.& R. Co.
U.S. Cutlery Co.
Underhill & Co.
Union Stock
United Cutlery
Utica Co. Germany
Utica Kutmaster
Valley Forge
Van Camp
Vanco
Veb Sesta
Veritable Fedide
Vollmer
Vom Cleff
W. Bingham
W. Spencer & Co.
W.G.C.
W&G Vogel
Wabash Cutlery Co.
Wade & Butcher
Walden Knife Co
Walter Kayser
Warris
Waterville Cutlery
Weske
Wimberly & Thomas
Winchester
Wm. Rodgers
Wm.Congreve
York Cutlery
GOTTA ADD WYETHS TO THE LIST!!!!
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Peanut740; Ivoryman; BWT; and Ridgegrass:

Thanks for the comments and info. about the NEW ENGLAND KNIFE CO. example.

And if I see the young feller again who called my attention to the knife’s availability, I will be thanking him. I do not run into many young people who appreciate old things, but it is nice to meet the occasional exception.
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Wannadotoo wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:45 pm Here's 3 of my best in the obscure category...
Sorry no tang pics...lol... I'm at work
Three beauties there, lots to like. Good pics too.
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Wannadotoo wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:45 pm Here's 3 of my best in the obscure category...
Sorry no tang pics...lol... I'm at work
3 good ones! ::tu:: ::tu::
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Hey stumpstalker my book shows New England knife co. Dated at c.1910
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That’s a great looking knife!!

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Oledadsknives”:

Thanks for the comments and info.

Nothing much in the two editions of GOINS’ that I have on who may have been making NEW ENGLAND KNIFE CO. knives – just the guessed period early in the 20th Century, as per GOINS’ (1998).

But “peanut740”, who knows knives, to put it mildly, posits CHALLENGE, which accords with what another long-time collector local to me has said based on "reading the knife".

“Waukonda”:

The Ulery with the etched blade and barehead handle covers is stunning.

I do know of one knife that to my novitiate eye has similar handle covers and it is a WALDEN KNIFE CO. Interestingly, GOINS’ says NAPANOCH KNIFE CO. made many Ulery knives, which was a Hudson River Valley watershed neighbor of the WALDEN KNIFE CO.
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Hart Cutlery Company, New York. Coke Bottle Lock back Knife. I was able to purchase this knife yesterday at Arizona`s Largest Gunshow of the year at Arizona State Fairgrounds. Don't see these often. Voyles book says Hart Cutlery was in business from 1893 to 1905. Lockback works great, No cracks in the bone. I collect Old Winchester Knives and would be willing to trade this knife. Mike ::tu::
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Nice knives Thomasg.


THELCO- Cleveland, is a bit obscure.
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TTC inside a diamond. These are an early Sears brand from my research. Both are mint,the curved jack is definitely Napanoch made,as I have the same knife stamped Napanoch.The coffin jack,don't know. The stamps vary,so possibly different manufacturers.
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An additional photo.
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peanut740 wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:27 pm An additional photo.
Beautiful knives!
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