Old and Obscure Brands

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Ivoryman, read this thread from page one all the way through. It should answer all your questions.

https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... hp?t=26036
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Miller Bro's wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:50 pm Ivoryman, read this thread from page one all the way through. It should answer all your questions.

https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... hp?t=26036
Reading 71 pages is a tall order. Any clues as to which pages would help to understand Iman's "Elder MFG. CO." knife ?
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Roland, what link are you clicking on?

The thread I posted only has eight pages.
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Miller Bro's wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:42 pm Roland, what link are you clicking on?

The thread I posted only has eight pages.
Sorry Dimitri. I read the first sentence: "Ivoryman, read this thread from page one all the way through" and did not realize that you were referring to the link posted underneath.
This has happened before. I need to slow down as i read so i will be less likely to miss something significant.
I did just read all 8 pages of the link.
So Iman's knife is a recently made fake similar to the ones shown in the linked to thread. Even though "fake", all these knives look to be very well made and are very 'eye-catching'. If the blades have been properly tempered then they would be a good user.
I have 3 of these recent fakes, all from ebay over the space of about 2 years (i.e. not from same seller at same time). I knew they were 'too good to be true' and so therefore almost certainly fakes. No one was bidding on them so i ended up paying about $25-$30 each.
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No problem Roland common mistake.

So yes, they are not originals, as I stated in that thread I think they were made by a knife factory for someone as they are too good quality and very consistent in their manufacture.

I would like to have one as I would carry it and use it on a daily basis and find out how good the temper is and overall how well it would hold up. ::nod::
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Miller Bro's wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:58 pm No problem Roland common mistake.

So yes, they are not originals, as I stated in that thread I think they were made by a knife factory for someone as they are too good quality and very consistent in their manufacture.

I would like to have one as I would carry it and use it on a daily basis and find out how good the temper is and overall how well it would hold up. ::nod::
Well i just happen to have one with your name on it ! It's a 3 1/2" Swell Center Jack with fancy bolsters and caps. 'Course a Miller Bros knife in this near mint condition is pretty rare :wink: so you might have to pay up for shipping :)
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That looks just like a Bluegrass Cutlery Black Box Winchester. ::nod::
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The Elder knife posted is a good example of looks new because it is new. Being there are few if any Elder knives to use as comparators is a reason such obscure stamps have been used for these more modern knives that are often passed for old. It is, as I said a nice looking knife with beautiful Rogers bone handles but it is not as old as the knife would like you to believe.
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W. Bingham Co.
Cleveland, OH
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Ivoryman wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:36 pm W. Bingham Co.
Cleveland, OH
Beautiful knife I-man. Loving the bone on that one. ::tu::
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Papa Bones wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 1:41 pm
Ivoryman wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:36 pm W. Bingham Co.
Cleveland, OH
Beautiful knife I-man. Loving the bone on that one. ::tu::
Agree!!! ::nod:: ::nod::
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Thanks Papa, doglegg, appreciate it. Thought someone should see it besides just me. Thanks again.
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Really nice one, Iman!!
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Waukonda wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 8:39 pm Really nice one, Iman!!
Thanks to you too Ike. Appreciate it, glad you all like.
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Stumbled upon this Crown Cutlery Sunday at the flea market.
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Ivoryman wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:36 pm W. Bingham Co.
Cleveland, OH
Beautiful! ::nod:: :D
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Beautiful knife Scott. ::tu:: ::tu::
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Wowzers on that Bingham! ::ds::
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Here`s an Old and Obscure Knife I acquired while pickin over the weekend. Richards & Conover Hardware Co. Not great condition, but it was cheap and its Rare. 8)
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Desert Golfer wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:53 pm Here`s an Old and Obscure Knife I acquired while pickin over the weekend. Richards & Conover Hardware Co. Not great condition, but it was cheap and its Rare. 8)
Cool find! ::tu:: Looks pretty nice! Nice handles! ::tu:: ::nod:: Congrats! ::handshake:: ::super_happy::
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Nice find Desert Golfer ::tu:: ::tu:: I like it and definitely obscure!
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Anyone know who made this Richards & Conover Hardware Co. knife ? Maybe Schrade Cut Co. ?
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I like it too. ::nod:: ::nod::
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Here`s an Old and Obscure Knife I was able to pick at a Garage Sale yesterday. Pacific Hardware & Steel Co. Not much left of the spear Blade and Pen Blade is missing but nice Bone and it only cost me 7 Bucks. What the Hay. 8)
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kootenay joe wrote: Tue Aug 31, 2021 10:53 pm Anyone know who made this Richards & Conover Hardware Co. knife ? Maybe Schrade Cut Co. ?
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Saw a counter felt on FB that someone posted for Hammer Brand New York knife Co and on the bottom was Richards & Conover.
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