Old and Obscure Brands

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Thanks Bill.
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peanut740 wrote: Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:05 pm According to Goins,dates from ca.1900-1920.E.Felsenheld Maker New York.4 1/2" jack.
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Reverand wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:54 am Yomagn'tho, you did a great job in cleaning and restoring that knife! I know we shudder at the thought of sanding rare antique knives, but sometimes the poor condition leaves you no choice.
There is a big difference between cleaning off rust, and over-buffing a knife "just to make it shiny"!
You did well!
Thanks Reverand, appreciate it ::tu::
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A.A. FISHER

I will have to look for a better example, but I slicked this one up pretty fast. Goins 2nd Edition doesn't list it so I am not sure about it's date or anything for that matter. I think the scales are bakelite (looks & feels) so it would be post 1909. Sorry I was having a difficult time getting focus on the makers mark and couldn't find my magnifying glass.

A couple questions though:

1. How does the collecting community feel about reshaping an already damaged blade? Obviously leaving a knife as untouched is ideal, closest to factory as possible, but if the damage already exists? With this one I will leave the smaller blade alone as the main one will be all I need.
2. Apart from Goin's are there any books that will help shed light on the different knife makers?
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Yomagn'tho wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:56 am A.A. FISHER

I will have to look for a better example, but I slicked this one up pretty fast. Goins 2nd Edition doesn't list it so I am not sure about it's date or anything for that matter. I think the scales are bakelite (looks & feels) so it would be post 1909. Sorry I was having a difficult time getting focus on the makers mark and couldn't find my magnifying glass.

A couple questions though:

1. How does the collecting community feel about reshaping an already damaged blade? Obviously leaving a knife as untouched is ideal, closest to factory as possible, but if the damage already exists? With this one I will leave the smaller blade alone as the main one will be all I need.
2. Apart from Goin's are there any books that will help shed light on the different knife makers?
Rebuilding the blade or not depends on the purpose of the knife. Do you want to use it or just store it in a collection. Of course, when replacing the blade, authenticity will be lost, but maybe it makes sense.
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Yomagn'tho wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:56 am A.A. FISHER

I will have to look for a better example, but I slicked this one up pretty fast. Goins 2nd Edition doesn't list it so I am not sure about it's date or anything for that matter. I think the scales are bakelite (looks & feels) so it would be post 1909. Sorry I was having a difficult time getting focus on the makers mark and couldn't find my magnifying glass.

A couple questions though:

1. How does the collecting community feel about reshaping an already damaged blade? Obviously leaving a knife as untouched is ideal, closest to factory as possible, but if the damage already exists? With this one I will leave the smaller blade alone as the main one will be all I need.
2. Apart from Goin's are there any books that will help shed light on the different knife makers?
That’s a nice ole obscure brand for sure, thanks for showing. I usually don’t try to change the blade shape unless maybe it’s a really small nick. I would probably make it worse. If it is a old knife I got for my collection I’m never going to use it and it already served it purpose unfortunately for the person that abused it.
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Yomagn'tho wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:56 am A.A. FISHER

I will have to look for a better example, but I slicked this one up pretty fast. Goins 2nd Edition doesn't list it so I am not sure about it's date or anything for that matter. I think the scales are bakelite (looks & feels) so it would be post 1909. Sorry I was having a difficult time getting focus on the makers mark and couldn't find my magnifying glass.

A couple questions though:

1. How does the collecting community feel about reshaping an already damaged blade? Obviously leaving a knife as untouched is ideal, closest to factory as possible, but if the damage already exists? With this one I will leave the smaller blade alone as the main one will be all I need.
2. Apart from Goin's are there any books that will help shed light on the different knife makers?
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For Sheffield knives, "Tweedale's Directory of Sheffield Cutlery Manufacturers 1740 - 2013" is excellent. For German knives, Carter's "German Knife and Sword Makers 1850 to 1945" is the best. There are about 5 Fishers listed in Tweedale's, but no A.A. There is one listing for "Fischer" in Carter's, but, no mention of A.A. It was a mark used by Paul Kohl.
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danno50 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:21 pm
Yomagn'tho wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 12:56 am A.A. FISHER

I will have to look for a better example, but I slicked this one up pretty fast. Goins 2nd Edition doesn't list it so I am not sure about it's date or anything for that matter. I think the scales are bakelite (looks & feels) so it would be post 1909. Sorry I was having a difficult time getting focus on the makers mark and couldn't find my magnifying glass.

A couple questions though:

1. How does the collecting community feel about reshaping an already damaged blade? Obviously leaving a knife as untouched is ideal, closest to factory as possible, but if the damage already exists? With this one I will leave the smaller blade alone as the main one will be all I need.
2. Apart from Goin's are there any books that will help shed light on the different knife makers?
::welcome:: to AAPK.
For Sheffield knives, "Tweedale's Directory of Sheffield Cutlery Manufacturers 1740 - 2013" is excellent. For German knives, Carter's "German Knife and Sword Makers 1850 to 1945" is the best. There are about 5 Fishers listed in Tweedale's, but no A.A. There is one listing for "Fischer" in Carter's, but, no mention of A.A. It was a mark used by Paul Kohl.
Thanks for the welcome and the info Dan
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This is one that I would never have had a clue about if it was not for AAPK, John Chatillon & Sons. It has some wear but so do I. Thanks
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Wear or not it’s a really good find, my kinda ole knife ::tu:: ::tu::
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What Bill said ::tu:: ::tu::
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Absolutely wonderful old knife. Congrats. ::nod:: ::nod::
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Great old knife, luckydog, interesting shield. ::tu::
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Chatillion owned Phoenix Knife Co.That's who made yours. ::tu::
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Thanks a lot guys. I didnt know that peanut. That is good to know and I will look out for that name too. Blades Guides says Phoenix was Central City Knife. Never seen one of those either.
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Not sure how obscure it is, but I have a Marttiini brand knife from around the 1960s, as best as I can tell. I picked her up at a yard sale for a buck. Thsi knife is a handy fishing knife. She needs a little work on the handle.
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My lucky day. 5 bucks at the flea market. All four blades stamped HOLLEY MFG Co. LAKE VILLE. Top and lower liners worked. Who cares about a little crack.
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Those Martini's are great fillet knives. They're sold as RAPALA's and are still around. . ::tu::

That HOLLEY is a peach! Don't find many of those. Super quality ::tu::
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That’s a good looking Holley, and for 5.00 :D :D
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Thanks, my first one.
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W&G Vogel didn`t only make pocket knives . I never found out much about them but thought I should show this one .. Stamped W&G Vogel Elberfeld with the tongs.
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I would say its about 1900 - 1918
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That's a fine old Holley, Jacknifeben.
You stole it! :D
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Nice rescue JKB. Petekuhn that is a major slab of stag you got. Is that a switchblade? I would like to see all of it. Those bolsters look unique also.
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16 inches when open
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