Old and Obscure Brands

[FRJ]

While looking through some folding toothpicks and fish knives to find one made in New York state I found one.
But where in New York state I have no idea and neither does Goin's. I was hoping to find one to place it in the "Little Sheffield"
thread.

This stamp reads; A.A. Fisher Co., N.Y.
Goin's gives one date - 1919

Slowly approaching the one hundred year mark makes it old
and since we don't know how long they were in business (1 year?) I'm going with obscure.
So, old and obscure.

A very solid and well built knife with composition handles that have shrunk slightly a long time ago.

Thanks for looking.

[BWT]

Very nice Joe, I have never seen that maker before, that's what I like about it, thanks for sharing!!!

[1967redrider]

I've had this Wade Bros, Celebrated Cutlery knife for some time now. I have always been meaning to post some pictures and I'm looking for your opinion on what type of wooden scales these are? I'm guessing Cocobolo???

This is the condition I received this knife in, minus rust that I carefully removed. Half-stops on the smaller blades but not the main, tang stamps on each blade, brass wedge between the springs as typical on whittlers and long match-striker pulls on each blade.

Including a picture from Goins book to explain how this German maker tried to pose as British, which rallied the cause for "Country of Origin" legislation here in the U.S. Interesting how some modern knife makers TODAY are still trying to label their knives as "Made in _____ " through deceitful practices to avoid stigma and increase sales/profits.

[michaelspayth]

A few of mine that I think fall into this category.

[michaelspayth]

Not sure exactly how old it is but its a brand that has been seldom to come acros for me atleast.

[Optimist]

This pretty little penknife has silver or german silver side plates showing roses and sunflowers. The wear suggests it must have been much loved and a broken blade has been carefully trimmed. The style suggests German origin to me but the only mark is the word, in capitals, HAKE. I found it in a French flea market, h

as anyone encountered this maker before?

[wlf]

Nice old knife Joe.
Stamps not seen much Micheal. I have a Jordan farmers jack below,which I think is the same company as your Jordan.
Old one optimist.

I've had this Wade Bros, Celebrated Cutlery knife for some time now. I have always been meaning to post some pictures and I'm looking for your opinion on what type of wooden scales these are? I'm guessing Cocobolo???

This is the condition I received this knife in, minus rust that I carefully removed. Half-stops on the smaller blades but not the main, tang stamps on each blade, brass wedge between the springs as typical on whittlers and long match-striker pulls on each blade.

Including a picture from Goins book to explain how this German maker tried to pose as British, which rallied the cause for "Country of Origin" legislation here in the U.S. Interesting how some modern knife makers TODAY are still trying to label their knives as "Made in _____ " through deceitful practices to avoid stigma and increase sales/profits.

Hello buddy
I found this very interesting John and did a little research a few years back . Here is an exert from the 1891 "Tariff Review" that is pertinent:

https://books.google.com/books?id=gcQ7A ... ia&f=false

[1967redrider]

Cool link and awesome knife, Lyle!

[Old Folder]

Beautiful knife Lyle.
It's a perfect example of what leads us down the path to be "Collectors"

[michaelspayth]

Love everything about that Jordan!

[wlf]

The knife has been buffed to death and I believe reprofiled, one of the first farmers jacks I acquired.

[michaelspayth]

Germania Cutlery Works
Germany

[michaelspayth]

Fairly obscure.

[galvanic1882]

Pretty obscure brand have only seen a few of these through the years.

Binghamton Cutlery, town is in upstate NY. Heavy dogleg has great action on both blades.

[treefarmer]

I posted this on in the Mail Call yesterday and just realized it probably would be considered an old and obscure knife, a STAINLESS SUPREME.
I dressed up the edge with my Lansky and I'm pleased with this unusual spay bladed knife.

STAINLESS SUPREME appears to have NS liners.

It's size 3 1/2" compared to a Case 6275

tang stamp

Treefarmer

[galvanic1882]

Nice knife TF

[New_Windsor_NY]

My entry, this HOLLINGER FREMONT whittler.

[New_Windsor_NY]

I think this one merits mentioning. I'm guessing it's a Geo Schrade wire handle knife. I have a nice group of Geo Schrade wire handle knives and the tang stamps, while not all the same, all say GEO SCHRADE. This one doesn't and it also does not say where it was manufactured. Anyway, here it is.

[RobesonsRme.com]

That patent date should yield some information re’ its maker.

Charlie

[New_Windsor_NY]

That patent date should yield some information re’ its maker.
Charlie

That is why I believe it to be a Geo Schrade, the patent date. Here is the tang stamp of one of my other Geo Schrade wire handle knives.

[kootenay joe]

Here is a 2 3/4" 4 blade senator with all four blades marked: "Chatham/Cutlery/Sheffield". All blades have long pulls that go to the tang and all have half stops. Blade action is smooth, all snaps are crisp and there is no play anywhere. Well made !
I think handles are bone but they could be horn. There are 4 'ease outs' for easy access to pulls.
The pivot pins are a different metal from the bolsters. Usually this is a sign of a German made knife, but not always.
Neither Levine nor Goins mentions this brand. As there is no country name it could be older than 1891.
My thought is that this is a contract knife made in Germany for a business (cutlery or otherwise) in Sheffield and then sold as a Sheffield knife. Bernard Levine has described this practice and said it was not common but did occur as the cost of knife making at the time was lower in Solingen than in Sheffield.
Have you seen other examples of this brand ?
kj

[Robo]

While looking through some folding toothpicks and fish knives to find one made in New York state I found one.
But where in New York state I have no idea and neither does Goin's. I was hoping to find one to place it in the "Little Sheffield"
thread.

This stamp reads; A.A. Fisher Co., N.Y.
Goin's gives one date - 1919

Slowly approaching the one hundred year mark makes it old
and since we don't know how long they were in business (1 year?) I'm going with obscure.
So, old and obscure.

A very solid and well built knife with composition handles that have shrunk slightly a long time ago.

Thanks for looking.

AA Fisher contracted Imperial for their ticklers. This is of course prior to Imperial going with those new-fangled shell handled beauties every person with a fishing pool, a hook, and a dream owned at some point back in the day. The early Imperial Ticklers were well made, light gauge folders--maybe not up to par with the single blade Case Tested --1095s--but pretty dang close. Imperial also made contract knives for other more or less obscure companies which I shall post later. Thanks for Sharing!!!!

Top to bottom: AA Fisher Jigged bone Tickler; Three AA Fisher Ticklers on left Two Imperial Ticklers on right; close up of Tang Stamps.

[FRJ]

Thanks Robo,
Great knives and great information and great pictures.

[SDCOOK2019]

New here and to collecting, picked up this old guy Powell River Sales Co but the makers mark is partially worn. All I can read is the last ???ACE Co Made In USA, does anyone know this maker?

Thanks a bunch, Steve

[JohnR]

Picked up this St Lawrence Cutlery Jack made in Germany, 1886 to 1916, still a very nice knife, faint etch still visible but not enough to read, also an inked number was applied at some point.