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If you mean the S&A, it's a slightly worn sheepsfoot on a two blade jack.
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Well, here's a name that was in business for over 50 years, but I think is not quit a household name. I'd like to give it some attention here. It's a great knife. Very well made and Nice bone handles.

Hollinger,..........Freemont, Ohio......... Does anyone have this brand?
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Bret & I actually have a sheath knife with the name "Hollinger, Fremont OH" on it. I will try to get a scan of it soon. I know that LG4 states c1919, with a high collectible rating. Goins says that some of their cutlery line was made by other manufacturers and lists the dates as 1905-1958. All I have is book info though..
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Anybody else see this in the A.G. Russell online catalog?

"On a dealer's table at the 2006 Blade Show, we found and purchased an antique Hobo knife that was the most elegant I had ever seen. The mark was Ostdiek Co. Minneapolis, one I had never seen before. I have checked with many dealers and collectors in the pocketknife portion of this industry and have found no one who knows anything about that company. It is my belief that the knife was produced in the late 1800s or early 1900s. The profile was slim and the lines were extremely pleasing to behold..."

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Here is one I posted on another site, asking if anyone knew anything about the maker? I got no replies at all... I can't find anything that matches in my books & have come up empty even on the web. Looks like it should be an easy one, but ::shrug::

Looks to say F. GG & Sawyer, Sheffield. Its a pretty ivory handled knife that has nice thickness to the scales. It feels heavy for its size.
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trail wrote:Anybody else see this in the A.G. Russell online catalog?

"On a dealer's table at the 2006 Blade Show, we found and purchased an antique Hobo knife that was the most elegant I had ever seen. The mark was Ostdiek Co. Minneapolis, one I had never seen before. I have checked with many dealers and collectors in the pocketknife portion of this industry and have found no one who knows anything about that company. It is my belief that the knife was produced in the late 1800s or early 1900s. The profile was slim and the lines were extremely pleasing to behold..."

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Do you think that he was refering to one like I posted in this thread ? If so , BRL only has one reference to it in his 4th ed. and lists it as 1908 - 1930's . It does look like 1920's Case bone & jigging .

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Yes, Bob, I think he must have found one similar or identical to yours. He has had something made that he calls a "boxcar jack" that is patterned after the Ostdiek, and while it is not nearly as beautiful as yours it does have a family resemblance.
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Here is the Case slot knife from Levine's Website:
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There's also a shot of the inside of both sides.
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ObsidianEdge wrote:Here is the Case slot knife from Levine's Website:

There's also a shot of the inside of both sides.
Looks like the only difference is the type of bone and the sabre grind .

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knifegirl888 wrote:Bret & I actually have a sheath knife with the name "Hollinger, Fremont OH" on it. I will try to get a scan of it soon.
Thanks knifegirl, I'd like to see a pic. of the sheath knife. I read about my knife in Goins too. The name was under steam for quite a while. You'd think more of there knives would surface. Maybe they do and I'm just not under the right star. Thats happened before.
Your other knife is beautiful. You reckon that ivory adds weight?
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FRJ wrote:
knifegirl888 wrote:Bret & I actually have a sheath knife with the name "Hollinger, Fremont OH" on it. I will try to get a scan of it soon.
Thanks knifegirl, I'd like to see a pic. of the sheath knife. I read about my knife in Goins too. The name was under steam for quite a while. You'd think more of there knives would surface. Maybe they do and I'm just not under the right star. Thats happened before.
Your other knife is beautiful. You reckon that ivory adds weight?
Thank you. I don't really know how much weight the thicker ivory scales would add, probably nil? It just feels heavier than other knives of the same size. I actually carried it around for days after we got it, which I never do. I like it alot, even if it's an unknown.

Bret keeps all the sheath knives at his place still, so I will have to snag it from his house. We are currently looking to buy a house together, but we have to find one with enough room for two boys, a black lab, me, Bret, the hunting trophies & the knives. We need a big man/woman cave! :mrgreen:
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Here's a few obscure ones:

Edward K.Tryon Philadelphia PA 2 blade stag.
M.Klaas England sportsman's knife.
Samuel Robinson Sheffield pruner.
E.M.Dickinson Sheffield sportsman's knife.
Wm.Congreve single blade ca 1841
Tonerini Scarperia(Italy)sportsman's knife.
Vom Cleff Germany stag scaled whittler.
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Here are 3 different blade patterns in JACK KNIFE BEN knives. Anybody have any of these?
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K7K,

There are some cool ones in that bunch! We have a Vom Cleff, Lion cutlery. The main blade is broken though. ::disgust::

JKB,

I would love to have any one of those! We still have had no luck getting a Jack Knife Ben.
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knifegirl888 wrote:K7K,

There are some cool ones in that bunch! We have a Vom Cleff, Lion cutlery. The main blade is broken though.
The one I have the master blade has been re-profiled slightly and the pen blade is snapped at the tang.The only survivor is the manicure blade.Scales are perfect!
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I've got two Vom Cleff knives. The little 4-blade pearl handle I was calling a C. Lutters based on the reclining lion stamp but I guess I was wrong, but am corrected now. Thanks for posting that KG. The second is a VC&Co "fixed blade" corn knife with brass tubular handle and sheath.
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Great lookin' knives guys (& gal)!!!

K7K what can you tell me about the handle pins on the 5th down in your pics? Very unusual......
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Joe, that Hollinger is beautiful! I've never heard of that brand. Some really fine knives here, great thread trail, thanks. ::tu::
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Here's a couple more..

K & B Cutlery Co. (Kruse & Bahlman Hardware Co. Cincinnati, OH) & a Nippel.
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Cope wrote:Great lookin' knives guys (& gal)!!!

K7K what can you tell me about the handle pins on the 5th down in your pics? Very unusual......
Those are called,"birds-eye rivets" and are usually found only on very old knives.I'm not sure of the exact reason for using them but I think it was to help prevent cracks from forming in the scales.
That particular knife manufacturer dates(according to BRL)from 1829-1843.It is interesting in that the stag is perfectly scaled to the size of the knife which is 2 1/2" long closed.The liners and bolsters are made as one piece rather than having the bolsters soldered and/or pinned on and there is a small piece of bone in the very end of the knife that I believe once acted as a blade stop when it was closed to prevent damage to the point although the blade(a coping pattern) doesn't look to that shortened from original.
I am amazed that it has survived all these years in such relatively good shape.Aside from the sharpening of the blade the only other problem is a small chip from the end of the pile side scale.I often wonder what tales it could tell if it could only speak.
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knife7knut wrote:
Cope wrote:Great lookin' knives guys (& gal)!!!

K7K what can you tell me about the handle pins on the 5th down in your pics? Very unusual......
Those are called,"birds-eye rivets" and are usually found only on very old knives.I'm not sure of the exact reason for using them but I think it was to help prevent cracks from forming in the scales.
That particular knife manufacturer dates(according to BRL)from 1829-1843.It is interesting in that the stag is perfectly scaled to the size of the knife which is 2 1/2" long closed.The liners and bolsters are made as one piece rather than having the bolsters soldered and/or pinned on and there is a small piece of bone in the very end of the knife that I believe once acted as a blade stop when it was closed to prevent damage to the point although the blade(a coping pattern) doesn't look to that shortened from original.
I am amazed that it has survived all these years in such relatively good shape.Aside from the sharpening of the blade the only other problem is a small chip from the end of the pile side scale.I often wonder what tales it could tell if it could only speak.
It is an awesome piece! ::nod::
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A few more:

First is a small half congress by R.Bunting &Sons circa 1850.
Second is a 4 blade pen marked Silver Steel with an owl on the reverse.
Third is marked W&G Vogel and sports a fingernail clipper in the end.
Fourth is marked A*1 Tyler Celebrated Cutlery and has ten blades and some very fancy file work.
Fifth is marked G&J Allen Celebrated Cutlery and has pique work(tiny silver pins inserted in the scales)and an unusual combination of a Wharncliffe and coping blade.
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JK Ben I like the one with the Nap. Punch
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I'd call Lockwood Brothers of Sheffield a somewhat obscure brand since I found a few mentions of it in other posts but no pictures. My book shows dates of circa 1849 through 1993. The tang has the name and mark and the blade is stamped with the interesting phrase "Real Knife" and the word "Pampa", plus a picture of an ostrich-like bird. I can find no definition for "Pampa" (other than singular for pampas). My book states "Pampa, Rhea logo"; and a Rhea is an ostrich-like bird, so I don't know if that means some knives were stamped "Pampa" and others "Rhea" or just that they were stamped "Pampa" with a picture of a Rhea. This is the first old large knife I have acquired. I had heard many of these old-timers had powerful snap, and this one certainly does.
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FRJ wrote:
knifegirl888 wrote:Bret & I actually have a sheath knife with the name "Hollinger, Fremont OH" on it. I will try to get a scan of it soon.
Thanks knifegirl, I'd like to see a pic. of the sheath knife. I read about my knife in Goins too. The name was under steam for quite a while. You'd think more of there knives would surface. Maybe they do and I'm just not under the right star. Thats happened before.
Your other knife is beautiful. You reckon that ivory adds weight?
Here is the sheath knife. It's 7 1/2" long.
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