Old and Obscure Brands

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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Postby bladebuddy » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:07 am

Roger, thanks for the info on CHATILLON and Phoenix knife. I've never seen a Phoenix tang stamp in real life. Another one to add to the Holy Grail list. Thanks Steve B.
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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Postby peanut740 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:53 am

Steve,Phoenix marked knives are rare,you'll see way more marked John Chatillon.
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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Postby knifegnome » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:54 pm

The only marking is Hofmann,beautifull stag and 3 backsprings.
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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Postby Miller Bro's » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:58 pm

:D wow! How long is it closed?
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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Postby whitebuffalo58 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:01 am

Man, check out the stag on that beauty!! :shock:

Here's one I think is pretty obscure, I can't find ANY info on it at all. Both blades stamped "Best Ever Cutlery Co.-New York", also has a faint etch on the primary blade. Single heavy backspring with spacers to offset blades. I'm thinking maybe a contract brand from Schrade? ::shrug::

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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Postby OLDE CUTLER » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:02 pm

Another rather obscure brand on this 3 1/4" advertiser jack. B & B St. P MN USA = Brown and Bigelow, St. Paul, Minnesota. The Cargill on the handle is a HUGE ag business in the Twin Cities.
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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Postby espn77 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:49 pm

Cargill is huge everywhere.

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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Postby peanut740 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:29 pm

espn77 wrote:Cargill is huge everywhere.

Ditto!
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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Postby Woodly » Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:54 am

peanut740 wrote:
bladebuddy wrote:Here is a tang stamp I've not seen before.
JOHN
CHATILLON
& sons NY

I think it is a moose pattern with smooth bone handles and steel liners and bolsters. Clip side bolster is larger than the Spey side. 4 1/4" long closed. Still snaps like a gator. Anybody else have one or information about the company? I think they made scales for weighing but not sure what else. Thanks Steve B.

PS. Sorry for the fuzzy pictures. Gotta get a real camera.

Your knife was made by Phoenix Knife Co. Chatillon owned it until it burned down in 1917.I have had that pattern marked like yours and Phoenix.Great pattern. ::tu::


Doesn't Levine mention that brand in one of his earlier editions?

Sure are some incredible pieces of history in this thread of old and obscure.

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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Postby RobesonsRme.com » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:08 am

Spotted this knife in a grouping on Ebay. They are still for sale.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-7-Antiq ... SwKvJavpBh

This beautiful knife, unfortunately, has a broken pen blade.

Cocobola handles, I think. Nice bar shield.

Tangs are stamped QUAKER CITY / CUTLERY / CO. with a representative William Penn like Quaker logo on the back of both tangs.

Goins says circa 1886 to 1935 and a trademark of H. DISSTON.

SMITH & SELTZER was the exclusive agent for the brand.

I think that is a great knife.

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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Postby FRJ » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:52 pm

This knife has no tang stamps. The only mention of the maker is stamped on the main blade. 3 1/2" closed.
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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Postby OLDE CUTLER » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:19 pm

That's a real nice one, Joe. I have not seen one like that.
I picked up this 3" MOP pen at our local flea market because I had not seen the tang stamp before. It is marked on the front of the tang "Adolf Blaich, San Francisco, Razor Steel", and on the back of the tang "J. S. Holler, Germany". Blaich was in business from 1885-1954, and Holler from 1867-1906, so this must be pre 1906?

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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Postby Eustace » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:38 pm

FRJ wrote:This knife has no tang stamps. The only mention of the maker is stamped on the main blade. 3 1/2" closed.


Very cool!
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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Postby FRJ » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:23 pm

Thank you, Eustace.
And thank you for that informative name and stamp.
That will be very helpful for future searches.

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Re: Old and Obscure Brands

Postby FRJ » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:25 pm

Thank you, OLDE CUTLER. ::tu::


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