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Thanks Roger and Greg ..
Greg - Great point about Thompson and Gascoigne !! When I was searching Gascoigne that was the first that appeared relative to starting Empire Knife... I know Thompson and Gascoigne were both Englishman but the strange thing is that no matter how long I searched for them and looked in references there is not any mention of their first names and more importantly I couldn't find any info on their background nor their knives with tang stamps - so its an interesting possibility in the right time frame but I may have to dig deeper into different searches - so far no luck....
Greg - Great point about Thompson and Gascoigne !! When I was searching Gascoigne that was the first that appeared relative to starting Empire Knife... I know Thompson and Gascoigne were both Englishman but the strange thing is that no matter how long I searched for them and looked in references there is not any mention of their first names and more importantly I couldn't find any info on their background nor their knives with tang stamps - so its an interesting possibility in the right time frame but I may have to dig deeper into different searches - so far no luck....
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Congratulations on that little piece of history, Lee.
What a nice piece for any collection.
What a nice piece for any collection.
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Great knife you have there!!
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Great historical find, Lee! Really nice grain in the ivory.
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Thanks Joe, Mike and Dan ... in a sense I feel like I found one of my “grail” knives from a historic aspect ..
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That knife is in great shape for its age, Lee... a very nice looking too... a real prize!
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Thanks Ken ...
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[quote="LongBlade"]Here's one for the old and rare ones...
This small 2 blade swayback ivory jack with rat tail bolsters is 2 1/8". All steel construction including liners and bolsters though the pins appear to be brass on the handles (not pivot pin) - no doubt much heavier in hand than one would expect for a knife at this size. On the mark side photo I included a penny sized 1863 Civil War token for relative size though I think this no doubt pre-dated the Civil War... I'm thinking based on a few things 150-200 years old. The knife no doubt has stove pipe or square kicks on both blades - and the most unusual part is this knife is a "true split spring" (see photo) - that was no doubt an exciting find in this knife for me as I had been wanting to add a split spring to the old collection. True split spring knives are rather elusive & no doubt rare, and I have really only seen photos of 2 knives with split springs posted by Dave (djknife13). Despite all we hear about true split spring whittlers I have yet to see an example. There was another knife posted by dcgm4 (Dave) that was a Jackson whittler and though there were 2 separate springs off of one solid spring they were not split as in this knife (or djknife13's knives)... I should start another thread on just true split spring knives and see if any float to the surface ....
Just smashing, what an elegant ancient beauty and great info, learned lots, great show, thanks thanks thanks. Mmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnn. Yeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh. Keep this kind coming.
This small 2 blade swayback ivory jack with rat tail bolsters is 2 1/8". All steel construction including liners and bolsters though the pins appear to be brass on the handles (not pivot pin) - no doubt much heavier in hand than one would expect for a knife at this size. On the mark side photo I included a penny sized 1863 Civil War token for relative size though I think this no doubt pre-dated the Civil War... I'm thinking based on a few things 150-200 years old. The knife no doubt has stove pipe or square kicks on both blades - and the most unusual part is this knife is a "true split spring" (see photo) - that was no doubt an exciting find in this knife for me as I had been wanting to add a split spring to the old collection. True split spring knives are rather elusive & no doubt rare, and I have really only seen photos of 2 knives with split springs posted by Dave (djknife13). Despite all we hear about true split spring whittlers I have yet to see an example. There was another knife posted by dcgm4 (Dave) that was a Jackson whittler and though there were 2 separate springs off of one solid spring they were not split as in this knife (or djknife13's knives)... I should start another thread on just true split spring knives and see if any float to the surface ....
Just smashing, what an elegant ancient beauty and great info, learned lots, great show, thanks thanks thanks. Mmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnn. Yeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh. Keep this kind coming.
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Thanks Ivoryman ...
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You've turned over a few rocks to find that artifact Lee.
Good luck on the research.
Good luck on the research.
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Mr. Kennedy, you have lucky pockets.
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That really is a historical find LongBlade. True museum piece. I love to pack a dog leg jack also Mr. Kennedy. Nice knife.
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Thanks Lyle and LD64 ....
Nice dogleg kennedy knives ...
Nice dogleg kennedy knives ...
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Thanks for the comments on the Camillus made Federal Knife Co. Made around 1920
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HOWE’S CUTLERY CO. It’s a little ‘un, just 2-3/4 inches long. Tortoise shell covers.
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Ken, is that genuine tortoise shell or celluloid faux tortoise shell?Mumbleypeg wrote:HOWE’S CUTLERY CO. It’s a little ‘un, just 2-3/4 inches long. Tortoise shell covers.
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I’m no expert David, but I think it’s genuine tortoise. When I bought it I assumed celluloid. But if I give it the “rub and smell” test it doesn’t give off any odor. At least not any my old nose can detect.edge213 wrote:Ken, is that genuine tortoise shell or celluloid faux tortoise shell?Mumbleypeg wrote:HOWE’S CUTLERY CO. It’s a little ‘un, just 2-3/4 inches long. Tortoise shell covers.
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Ken - Cool oldie - also looks like celluloid to me ...
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3 1/8" stag 4 blade senator marked: "E.K.Tryon Co/Philadelphia" with etch on master blade "Tryon".
Somewhere i have a stag Schrade Cut Co. senator and the stag looks similar to the Tryon. Do you know who made the E.K. Tryon knives ?
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Somewhere i have a stag Schrade Cut Co. senator and the stag looks similar to the Tryon. Do you know who made the E.K. Tryon knives ?
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Nice knife Roland. I really like the stag.
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I believe this knife qualifies as an "Old and Rare" one.
Allen Cutlery Co., Newburgh, NY. (1917-1925)
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That's definitely old and one I have never heard of New Windsor. This is a Blue Ribbon and my guess is it is a Belknap Hwd. brand.
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Nice Tryon KJ - sweet handles ... very cool seeing stag on a senator or pen knife
Nice knife New Windsor NY ... all metal handles are cool and durable ..
LD64 - Very nice Blue Ribbon ... interesting knife with the flat bottom bolster which is usually seen on Drs knives .. yet this knife and the master blade in particular suggests not a Drs knife... are the handles faux tortoise celluloid??
Nice knife New Windsor NY ... all metal handles are cool and durable ..
LD64 - Very nice Blue Ribbon ... interesting knife with the flat bottom bolster which is usually seen on Drs knives .. yet this knife and the master blade in particular suggests not a Drs knife... are the handles faux tortoise celluloid??
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Pretty sure its celluloid LongBlade. It favors a doctors knife, I wondered about it also?
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