Celluloid Handles

[CheckSix]

Dave, could you show us the Griffon with the other blades open ? Not sure if it is a 2 or 3 blade knife, i.e. Moose or Cattle knife ?
With 'oldies' it is best to not have more than 1 blade on a spring open at the same time.
I have never had a spring break but others have when setting up for a picture with all blades open.
kj

kj,
It's a 2 blade double ended jack, with the spear (as shown) and a clip blade, on two separate springs. Being only 3-3/8" closed length, I don't know if this length qualifies it as a Moose pattern or Bullhead or Texas jack. Further, the shield side as shown above, has the spear blade in what I would consider the master blade position. I thought I read somewhere that Levine says for it to be a moose pattern, the master blade has to be the clip blade, with a spear secondary. But being as I'm so new to all of this, I could have all of this wrong.

[tongueriver]

That bull-headed junior moosely cigar jack is a beauty! I don't know what to call it either. Here is another junior cattle knife, unmarked.

[thegreedygulo]

Nice one Cal!

[tongueriver]

I found a couple more pics.

[CheckSix]

That bull-headed junior moosely cigar jack is a beauty! I don't know what to call it either. Here is another junior cattle knife, unmarked.

LOL!! Glad I'm not alone.

Love all the cells you are showing!

[Berryb]

I was rummaging through my pile and ran across this one. It belonged to my grampa and my mom says he might have gotten it from his dad.
Anyway it's a Western States. Is it a stockman or a Texas Jack? It's 4" long. I can't find it in either one of my books. It's often sharpened and has years of pocket wear, but pretty nice.
Bruce

[Berryb]

why do I keep doing that?

[tongueriver]

It is a nice butter-and-molasses stockman; a Texas jack (I think) has that same frame, serpentine, with squared pinched bolsters, but TWO blades, originating from the same end. Usually a clip and a pen?

[Dinadan]

Berryb - good looking butter and molasses stockman. (I agree with Tongueriver about the stockman part.)

Here is a little Bulldog Sunday Whittler. I got it just over two years ago. I pulled it out of it drawer a few days ago and had an unpleasant surprise - it is in the early stages of outgassing. Sigh.

[tongueriver]

Here is a little Bulldog Sunday Whittler. I got it just over two years ago. I pulled it out of it drawer a few days ago and had an unpleasant surprise - it is in the early stages of outgassing. Sigh.

Nice knife; too bad about the problem. Ach! Those Deutschgassers! I have been tempted by pretty German knives but was warned and so far I have not purchased any of them.

[TripleF]

Couldn't identify a celluloid handle UNLESS it was gassing, then I know.

Not sure if this little bugger is or not.....

[Dinadan]

Here is a little Bulldog Sunday Whittler. I got it just over two years ago. I pulled it out of it drawer a few days ago and had an unpleasant surprise - it is in the early stages of outgassing. Sigh.

Nice knife; too bad about the problem. Ach! Those Deutschgassers! I have been tempted by pretty German knives but was warned and so far I have not purchased any of them.

That is probably a very smart attitude. I would not buy an expensive (over $40?) celluloid knife, but every now and then I see something that I like and is not too costly. I have one Fight'n Rooster with celluloid handles, I like it a lot more than the little Bulldog, and I hope it is not next to go!

Fight'n Rooster celluloid whittler

Couldn't identify a celluloid handle UNLESS it was gassing, then I know.

Not sure if this little bugger is or not.....

With a bit of luck you will never know ... at least, not due to out gassing! That is a nice looking knife, Scott.

[knife7knut]

Here's a few;makers are listed from top to bottom under the picture.

Thats a great group knifenut! I`m curious about those 2 fairmounts in the top photo. Do they happen to have milled liners? Love that lime green one with the big shield(what is that?) looks like it has a real nice spear master blade! Any chance of seeing more pics of that lime green fairmount? Thanks for showing!

Bob

Sorry to be so late in replying but I just now got back to this thread.The shield is actually a caricature of a golfer inset under a clear plastic bubble. Here are a couple pics of the Fairmonts.

[kootenay joe]

Scott, i think those are celluloid handles on your pen knife.
Has anyone tried coating celluloid with clear lacquer ? There are various clear lacquers from nail polish to floor finishes.
If this coating did not cause celluloid to break down when applied, it would seal off the celluloid from oxygen and other gases & liquids.
Would this prevent celluloid breakdown ? Is oxygen a requirement for cell breakdown ?
Is there a chemist here ?
kj

[knife7knut]

Scott, i think those are celluloid handles on your pen knife.
Has anyone tried coating celluloid with clear lacquer ? There are various clear lacquers from nail polish to floor finishes.
If this coating did not cause celluloid to break down when applied, it would seal off the celluloid from oxygen and other gases & liquids.
Would this prevent celluloid breakdown ? Is oxygen a requirement for cell breakdown ?

Is there a chemist here ?
kj

I/m not a chemist but one of the components(the main component actually)of celluloid is cellulose nitrate(the others being camphor and alcohol)which is also a component of old style lacquer paint ,racing fuel(nitromethane),and high explosives. It's main attribute is it's ability to burn in a vacuum due to oxygen being a part of it's makeup.
Sealing it off from the outside atmosphere would do little good if the degradation process has already begun.

[dcgm4]

That knife with the golfer is very cool, k7k! You don't see many with the pictures that small.

Here are a few:

1. Passaic Knife Co.
2. U.S. Cutlery Co.
3. Dixon Cutlery Co.

[tjmurphy]

I don't have too many celluloid handled knives but this is my favorite. ULSTER, 3" pen, never used or sharpened. Master blade marked ULSTER/Knife Co./N.Y. and the small blade marked ULSTER/Knife/Co. The handles are irridescent(sp?) and change with the lighting.

[schmoozer]

Love the "waterfall" handles like yours. Here is a razor with the same type handle material.

[schmoozer]

No-name knife, looks re-bladed but I bought it (very cheaply) for the handle. Haven't seen this pattern before.

[Tsar Bomba]

Ach! Those Deutschgassers!

This is now the forever-term I will use for newer German cell knives.

[ratlesnake75]

Hey Guys, I just got came across These Picture handled knives at an estate sale. Looking for some advice on them,,,,Piece them out//Sell as a collection//Rare name brands?? I dont know much of anything about "Picture handled knives" other than the ones showing "Military stuff" guys in them are scarce. Any info is greatly appreciated!!!! One of them is a Case Tested XX, I will dig it out and get pics of it by itself,,,Most are Vignos, Canton, Golden Rule, N.C Co, Aerial, A couple Colonials, Etc.
Thx Mark

[ratlesnake75]

Here is a picture of that Tested. I noticed its Long pull and no pattern#,,,Small blade not stamped
Kind Regards,
mark

[ratlesnake75]

Just updating, I went ahead and sold the "Collection" to a Collector so the knives will be staying together.
Kind Regards,
Mark

[thegreedygulo]

H. Boker & Co.'s Improved Cutlery with French ivory celluloid.

[FRJ]

Here's a Challlenge jack I received recently. 3 1/2" closed.