Farmer's Jacks

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Re: Farmer's Jacks

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picked this up at the market. ulster ,wright & wilhelmy.co. ?
not sure if it is a true farmers jack.
but is a good strong knife . with nice bone.
i would like any info on this knife.
thanks for looking.
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richard wrote:picked this up at the market. ulster ,wright & wilhelmy.co. ?
not sure if it is a true farmers jack.
but is a good strong knife . with nice bone.
i would like any info on this knife.
thanks for looking.
Very nice knife richard ::tu:: ::tu:: ... but not considered a Farmer’s Jack which would have a Hawkbill on one side and on opposite end a spey blade - imo your knife is a dogleg jack with nice bone handles :) ...
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Quite the haul John. You picked up all three at once,congratulations.

The spey blade was a design I borrowed from NYK. The pruning blade is similar to Schrades , as it’s style was easier to run on GEC’s machine, at the time. It doesn’t have the longer elegant point, that so easily gets sharpened away.
Bill made the frame smaller than I would have, but he had whittler patterns in mind too and they are typically shorter than FJ’s.

The Cut is of the sturdiest FJ’s. But, it’s a design borrowed from Empire.

They are the only two such of all I’ve seen, unique ,in that the pruning blade pin is in the meat of the bolster, not the rat tail, all others I’ve seen. They did this by adding 1/8” to the standard 4” length of the frame.

Tony Bose has a J Rodgers that he brought to Lexington to show me. It is also 4 1/8” , very sturdy and chunky. I do not know if the pin is placed like the Empires and Schrades. It is different than other J Rodgers cuts I have seen, which seemed typical for FJ’s.

I went and checked my pictures, Tony Bose’s J Rodgers doesn’t even have rat tails in the bolsters, very pedestrian for FJ’s, especially a J Rodgers knife.
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Here is the big J Rodgers.
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wlf wrote:Here is the big J Rodgers.
Thanks for everyone's comments on the Farmers jacks, appreciated, Lee the GEC's are hard to find, seems people are keeping them in their collections.

Lyle, the Schrade's do seem to be sturdily built, I've handled a few that have had heavy use and they have no play whatsoever. That Rodgers is something else, besides the size it also looks like a straight back instead of serpentine, maybe just the picture. I can't remember ever seeing another. Were you able to acquire it?
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No John, Tony said he would have given it to me, but it was given to him. Pretty sure from what I remember it is a wharnclff frame, but with less curves, chunkier. Not the usually elegant J Rodgers knife and different from a cut I have of a J Rodgers below. One of the beefiest knives of all knives I've ever held.
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Lyle you have a great collection, I applaud you for being so dedicated to a niche pattern lol my collection is all over the map and I find myself wanting to try and focus my efforts in some way.
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Thanks for sharing the pic of the Rodgers Lyle ::tu:: ::tu:: ... Given I think I am seeing “Oil the Joints” I would guess this knife is +/- 1950?? Which prompts another question - what is the earliest FJ you have or when do you think the pattern came into existence??
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wlf wrote:No John, Tony said he would have given it to me, but it was given to him. Pretty sure from what I remember it is a wharnclff frame, but with less curves, chunkier. Not the usually elegant J Rodgers knife and different from a cut I have of a J Rodgers below. One of the beefiest knives of all knives I've ever held.
Yes, I can see the slight curve to it now, well at least you were able to get pictures of it.
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Oh, and by the way that is a great Stag Wostenholm shown with it, gorgeous knife!
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LongBlade wrote:Thanks for sharing the pic of the Rodgers Lyle ::tu:: ::tu:: ... Given I think I am seeing “Oil the Joints” I would guess this knife is +/- 1950?? Which prompts another question - what is the earliest FJ you have or when do you think the pattern came into existence??
It's definitely later Lee, but I don't know how late.It has a similitude of the typical English bone jigging I often refer to.
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More gorgeous knife finds, Lyle. ::tu:: ::tu::
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Finally added something other than a Schrade or Wostenholm, a pretty nice Remington Farmers Jack, the tang stamp on both blades is just Remington UMC, no Made IN USA so I think that is early 1920's. Close to full blades and really nice bone.
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John, you buy great knives. ::tu::
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John ::tu:: ::tu:: ... I only need to say one word - bone ::drool::
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espn77 wrote:John, you buy great knives. ::tu::
Thanks Keith, appreciate it, I try. I left out the pattern number, looks to be R3853
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JohnR wrote: Thanks Keith, appreciate it, I try. I left out the pattern number, looks to be R3853
Yours is a lot nicer than my example. ::tu::
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LongBlade wrote:John ::tu:: ::tu:: ... I only need to say one word - bone ::drool::
Thank you Lee, appreciate it.
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Very nice!John,You're make Lyle jealous. ::tu::
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peanut740 wrote:Very nice!John,You're make Lyle jealous. ::tu::
Thanks Roger, I don't think Lyle will be too jealous, he has some pretty outstanding Remingtons.
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Beautiful find, John! ::tu:: Old Remington bone is some of the best!
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espn77 wrote:John, you buy great knives. ::tu::
I second that. ::tu::
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Nice find John. It’s always hard to tell the wear on spear and pruning blades. Yours or should I say Donna’s is fairly full.
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wlf wrote:Nice find John. It’s always hard to tell the wear on spear and pruning blades. Yours or should I say Donna’s is fairly full.

Thanks Lyle and you are right, should have said Donna's :D She seems to be claiming more of my new arrivals lately.
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Got a couple to add. This Southington is a smaller version like the Holley,Schatt and Morgan,and A Fields I have. I suspect these were early American versions of this pattern, although the bone on the larger framed Southington I have, seems to be an earlier example of jigging? I guess it could be they made two models ?

This knife looks to have never been used much ,if at all.The point on the pruning blade has been dulled off from opening and closing ,I would think.
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