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Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 10:03 pm
by JohnR
espn77 wrote:John, you buy great knives. ::tu::
Thanks Keith, appreciate it, I try. I left out the pattern number, looks to be R3853

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 10:17 pm
by espn77
JohnR wrote: Thanks Keith, appreciate it, I try. I left out the pattern number, looks to be R3853
Yours is a lot nicer than my example. ::tu::

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 12:00 am
by JohnR
LongBlade wrote:John ::tu:: ::tu:: ... I only need to say one word - bone ::drool::
Thank you Lee, appreciate it.

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 12:26 am
by peanut740
Very nice!John,You're make Lyle jealous. ::tu::

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 9:19 am
by JohnR
peanut740 wrote:Very nice!John,You're make Lyle jealous. ::tu::
Thanks Roger, I don't think Lyle will be too jealous, he has some pretty outstanding Remingtons.

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 4:00 pm
by danno50
Beautiful find, John! ::tu:: Old Remington bone is some of the best!

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 6:28 pm
by KnifeSlinger#81
espn77 wrote:John, you buy great knives. ::tu::
I second that. ::tu::

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:08 pm
by wlf
Nice find John. It’s always hard to tell the wear on spear and pruning blades. Yours or should I say Donna’s is fairly full.

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 3:39 pm
by JohnR
wlf wrote:Nice find John. It’s always hard to tell the wear on spear and pruning blades. Yours or should I say Donna’s is fairly full.

Thanks Lyle and you are right, should have said Donna's :D She seems to be claiming more of my new arrivals lately.

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:19 pm
by wlf
Got a couple to add. This Southington is a smaller version like the Holley,Schatt and Morgan,and A Fields I have. I suspect these were early American versions of this pattern, although the bone on the larger framed Southington I have, seems to be an earlier example of jigging? I guess it could be they made two models ?

This knife looks to have never been used much ,if at all.The point on the pruning blade has been dulled off from opening and closing ,I would think.

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:31 pm
by wlf
Here is a comparison from left to right of the large (4", common farmers jack size) Southington and the smaller (3 3/4") Southington,A Fields( made by Schatt and Morgan), Schatt and Morgan, and Holley.Compared to the Southington the Holley and Schatt look well used. I would have never thought the 3 3/4" Southington's pruning blade was as robust as it is. Pruning blades and spear blades will fool you unless you have a verifiable unused comparison.

On the other hand,the Holley is fuller than you think and the Schatt is near full, why....? The pruning blades were never that robust, as the Southington. They are a slimmer peach pruning type blade. Cuts in a 1915 Holley catalog and an old Schatt catalog shows the slimmer design.
I couldn't keep the tribe still.

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:58 am
by LongBlade
Lyle - All are sweet knives but the Southington just above is a beauty ::tu:: ::tu:: ... Now that is right up my alley ::nod:: ::tounge:: ... I'm not sure about dating those by the stamp ::hmm:: ... I think you know better than me about dating it by the bone!! Either way early or late in Southington history an old nice knife :D ...

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:25 am
by JohnR
Another great find Lyle, Southington made high quality knives, very interesting that they made 2 size farmers jacks.

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:39 am
by wlf
Another 4" unused Lockwood Bro. I think most of these came about years after WWII.Looks like this one got too close to a celluloid gasser.

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:58 pm
by doglegg
I appreciate Old Cutler Colonials as being a quality knife at a reasonable price. I had been watching for a Farmers Jack and finally ran across this one on the bay. Some one buffed the blades it appears but it still fits my desires. It is also their model with the fancy file work. It's about 4 inches long.
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Thanks for looking.

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:25 pm
by Quick Steel
So I take it that a Farmer's Jack, while similar to a Stockman, will have a hawkbill blade.

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:31 pm
by doglegg
QS, that is my understanding but hopefully someone who actually knows will come along and either validate or correct. ::shrug::

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:52 pm
by peanut740
I wouldn't call that a farmers jack.

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:04 pm
by doglegg
peanut740 wrote:I wouldn't call that a farmers jack.
Hey Roger, help me out with a definition. Is it because it has 4 blades? Is it just a stockman with an added pruner? ::shrug::

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:32 pm
by peanut740
I would call it a stockman.Look at the prior pages and you will figure out what a true farmers jack looks like.2 Blades,1 on each end.Serpentine frame and rat tailed bolsters. ::tu::

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:39 pm
by doglegg
peanut740 wrote:I would call it a stockman.Look at the prior pages and you will figure out what a true farmers jack looks like.2 Blades,1 on each end.Serpentine frame frame and rat tailed bolsters. ::tu::
Thank you Sir. ::handshake::

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:15 pm
by wlf
A farmers jack is a double ended single spring knife ,too large to be called a pen knife , typically about 4”. It has a pruning blade on the large end of almost always a wharncliff frame, and a spey or budding blade on the opposite end. Not everything is typical, but this is the norm. I have two of the "Old Cutlers". :)

Such as this old maker, American Shear and Knife Co.

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:11 pm
by doglegg
wlf wrote:A farmers jack is a double ended single spring knife ,too large to be called a pen knife , typically about 4”. It has a pruning blade on the large end of almost always a wharncliff frame, and a spey or budding blade on the opposite end. Not everything is typical, but this is the norm. I have two of the "Old Cutlers". :)

Such as this old maker, American Shear and Knife Co.
Thanks Lyle, I appreciate the information. Hope Jan is doing well. Thanks again. ::handshake::

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:18 am
by wlf
Thanks. She has tolerated the treatments pretty good and will finish them in about a month. So far so good.

Re: Farmer's Jacks

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:26 am
by JohnR
wlf wrote:Thanks. She has tolerated the treatments pretty good and will finish them in about a month. So far so good.
Donna and I are very glad to hear this Lyle, give Jan our best.