Extended blade folders
Extended blade folders
A recent picture by Miller Bro's prompted this post.
Story has it that the first folding knife with an extended blade was designed by the French Admiral "d'Estaing" in the late 1700s. There are several known examples of this type of knife from England and France dating from the mid 1800s, but these types are more commonly found from the late 1800s onward. Models from England ceased prior to WWII, but German examples were popular from the late 19th century right up to the late 20th century. Similar types are also found from other countries throughout Europe and the far East. Here is a c.1930s Sheffield example from "G. Butler" with checkered horn handles. Also shown is the original sheath which carries the "G. Butler" mark pressed into the leather. Please add other pictures of these model types.
Story has it that the first folding knife with an extended blade was designed by the French Admiral "d'Estaing" in the late 1700s. There are several known examples of this type of knife from England and France dating from the mid 1800s, but these types are more commonly found from the late 1800s onward. Models from England ceased prior to WWII, but German examples were popular from the late 19th century right up to the late 20th century. Similar types are also found from other countries throughout Europe and the far East. Here is a c.1930s Sheffield example from "G. Butler" with checkered horn handles. Also shown is the original sheath which carries the "G. Butler" mark pressed into the leather. Please add other pictures of these model types.
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Pretty cool, Mason. Is the button a release and is the tab on the blade end of the frame a lock/release to close?
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Nice Butler
Here are a couple.
Here are a couple.
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Here's the only one I have: H. Boker & Co. Solingen with original sheath.
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Thanks TJ, and yes you are exactly correct. The tab release is a simple solid mechanism but a little awkward to use with just a thumb nail as were the old Italian switchblade pick lock models.tjmurphy wrote:Pretty cool, Mason. Is the button a release and is the tab on the blade end of the frame a lock/release to close?
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Nice examples MB, and neat to see an original sheath with that back lever locking model.Miller Bro`s wrote:Nice Butler
Here are a couple.
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Beautiful Boker model, that is a great style and the only one like that I have seen with a Boker stamp.thegreedygulo wrote:Here's the only one I have: H. Boker & Co. Solingen with original sheath.
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Here is another German variation from the late 1800s which is unmarked. The blade is manually opened by pushing the button in the handle and closed by pushing the recessed back lock.
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The Germans seemed to love this type of hunting knife, I see more German made ones than anything else.
Good old English made ones are much harder to find
I like the bolsters on that one
Good old English made ones are much harder to find
I like the bolsters on that one
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I had a military bayonet when I was a boy, bought from Rodger's Army-Navy Surplus in the mid-1950's.
It would fold like these knives.
I have no idea of its country of origin. I do not recall getting rid of it. It might be another of the things of mine that my Dad took it upon himself to sell after I went to college and the military. I just know none of them turned up when we liquated the estate.
I used to think the extended version was for killing and the folded version for peeling potatos.
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It would fold like these knives.
I have no idea of its country of origin. I do not recall getting rid of it. It might be another of the things of mine that my Dad took it upon himself to sell after I went to college and the military. I just know none of them turned up when we liquated the estate.
I used to think the extended version was for killing and the folded version for peeling potatos.
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That sounds interesting and I'd like to see a picture if you ever run across it.RobesonsRme.com wrote:I had a military bayonet when I was a boy, bought from Rodger's Army-Navy Surplus in the mid-1950's.
It would fold like these knives.
I have no idea of its country of origin. I do not recall getting rid of it. It might be another of the things of mine that my Dad took it upon himself to sell after I went to college and the military. I just know none of them turned up when we liquated the estate.
I used to think the extended version was for killing and the folded version for peeling potatos.
Charlie Noyes
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Beautiful knives guys!
I have one I posted a few times because it fit different threads as it does this one. I love the concept/design on these knives. I bought it for my son to the tune of 800 bucks (yea, not a killer deal), not a common knife and I wanted it. I had the intention of leaving it to him when I passed but gave it to him now to enjoy. It has the original sheath, rarer than the knife itself as I understand, but I don't have a pic of the sheath unfortuately. Sheath only accommodate the knife in the closed position so it is a bit striking for a sheath, in my opinion. Will try to get a pic of the sheath next time I am at my son's place.
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I have one I posted a few times because it fit different threads as it does this one. I love the concept/design on these knives. I bought it for my son to the tune of 800 bucks (yea, not a killer deal), not a common knife and I wanted it. I had the intention of leaving it to him when I passed but gave it to him now to enjoy. It has the original sheath, rarer than the knife itself as I understand, but I don't have a pic of the sheath unfortuately. Sheath only accommodate the knife in the closed position so it is a bit striking for a sheath, in my opinion. Will try to get a pic of the sheath next time I am at my son's place.
CASE TESTED XX 551
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Nice jerry
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There aren't many American knives which fit into this category, but this one is a classic. Great knife in great condition, and the stag is beautiful.zp4ja wrote:Beautiful knives guys!
I have one I posted a few times because it fit different threads as it does this one. I love the concept/design on these knives. I bought it for my son to the tune of 800 bucks (yea, not a killer deal), not a common knife and I wanted it. I had the intention of leaving it to him when I passed but gave it to him now to enjoy. It has the original sheath, rarer than the knife itself as I understand, but I don't have a pic of the sheath unfortuately. Sheath only accommodate the knife in the closed position so it is a bit striking for a sheath, in my opinion. Will try to get a pic of the sheath next time I am at my son's place.
CASE TESTED XX 551
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Thanks Ricky and Mason!
Interesting that when I look closer at the posted knives that lever locks and press buttons were used. All are some beauties for sure. If I recall correctly, the CASE I posted has a liner lock to open and close.
All beautiful as I said and so I hate to single one out but I do have to say Dimitri, the one with the lever lock and swing guard is a real gem. I am really drawn to swing guard knives as you know. My personal favorite attribute of a knife.
Thanks all for sharing these ingenious design (in my opinion) knives.
Regards, Jerry
Interesting that when I look closer at the posted knives that lever locks and press buttons were used. All are some beauties for sure. If I recall correctly, the CASE I posted has a liner lock to open and close.
All beautiful as I said and so I hate to single one out but I do have to say Dimitri, the one with the lever lock and swing guard is a real gem. I am really drawn to swing guard knives as you know. My personal favorite attribute of a knife.
Thanks all for sharing these ingenious design (in my opinion) knives.
Regards, Jerry
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Beautiful knife Jerry!zp4ja wrote:If I recall correctly, the CASE I posted has a liner lock to open and close.
I have never handled one of these Case knives, I would like to see the locking system if you could get a picture of it. Also the sheath would be interesting to see as well, most often the sheath is missing on these knives.
Thank you, I like swing guards too!zp4ja wrote:The one with the lever lock and swing guard is a real gem. I am really drawn to swing guard knives as you know. My personal favorite attribute of a knife.
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I don't know if the bayonet in these pics are of the bayonet I had, but they are very similar.
These are of a Carcano Italian M-38.
Charlie Noyes
These are of a Carcano Italian M-38.
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Thanks, it`s an attractive looking leather sheathwazu013 wrote:Here's a link to a sheath for Jerry's 551.
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MB, I Googled "Folding bayonet" under "images" to find those pics. There were multiple examples from which to choose.
Surely, some of them were from sales sites.
Charlie
Surely, some of them were from sales sites.
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That's a great old folding bayonet, thanks for the pictures.RobesonsRme.com wrote:I don't know if the bayonet in these pics are of the bayonet I had, but they are very similar.
These are of a Carcano Italian M-38.
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Nice knife Dave!
Could you please possibly shoot a pic and post for Dimitri of the locking mechanisms on the knife? He asked me to do it but it will be awhile. As I recall there are 2 liner locks on opposite sides of the knife. one to open/close in closed position, one to open/close in blade open position. If you can't no big deal, I will get to it when I can.
Thanks and Regards, Jerry
Could you please possibly shoot a pic and post for Dimitri of the locking mechanisms on the knife? He asked me to do it but it will be awhile. As I recall there are 2 liner locks on opposite sides of the knife. one to open/close in closed position, one to open/close in blade open position. If you can't no big deal, I will get to it when I can.
Thanks and Regards, Jerry
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