Waterville Manufacturing / Waterville Cutlery Info

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They don’t get much better than that one Iman ::tu:: ::tu:: Beautiful knife for sure!!
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Nice!
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::tu:: ::tu::
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Thanks BWT, Peanut, and Edge. Really appreciate the comments and wondered if anyone noticed the stamp? Doesn't look right to me for some reason. Maybe cold stamped. The M looks stamped much deeper than the O, like they were not done at the same time, one at a time with different pressure. And the stamps I have seen don't look like this arch with K. C. M O. underneath. And I have never seen a knife with brass liners under the scales and yet steel divider/liner/center spacer or whatever it is in the middle. Anyone know if this is normal or a red flag? And even the angle of the blade coming off the frame seems too severe, not straight out enough. Also the tangs don't line up. The main blade step up from the tang to spine is way off from the secondary blade. Not even at all, and not square either. When closed they look way off. Shouldn't both tangs be square? Just my impression, but after going over this for pics the other day I noticed some stuff that seemed odd, or even not right in my mind. Also it appears the plunge grind lines in the flats on the blade run clear into the tang. Not just grind lines if they go clear over the tang to me. This looks like they were made after the stamping was done. Hope someone knows more about hundred year old (supposedly) knife making than I. But it made me wonder. Thanks again for the comments, I hope like hell it's authentic, given what I paid and how I love old knives. But I have to wonder now. Would welcome any thoughts on it if anyone has any. Thanks again.
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The only thing I noticed was the angle of the blade. I have a Aaron Burkinshaw with a angle like that and I was told it is a Burkinshaw blade in a NYK frame. The tang stamp I can’t help you don’t know much about that stuff??
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The bolsters not lining up makes me think that the knife may have been taken apart at some time in the past.
I have no other information about it's authenticity, never having held one.
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Yes it is Keith ::tu:: ::tu::
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Ivoryman wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:25 pm Thanks BWT, Peanut, and Edge. Really appreciate the comments and wondered if anyone noticed the stamp? Doesn't look right to me for some reason. Maybe cold stamped. The M looks stamped much deeper than the O, like they were not done at the same time, one at a time with different pressure. And the stamps I have seen don't look like this arch with K. C. M O. underneath. And I have never seen a knife with brass liners under the scales and yet steel divider/liner/center spacer or whatever it is in the middle. Anyone know if this is normal or a red flag? And even the angle of the blade coming off the frame seems too severe, not straight out enough. Also the tangs don't line up. The main blade step up from the tang to spine is way off from the secondary blade. Not even at all, and not square either. When closed they look way off. Shouldn't both tangs be square? Just my impression, but after going over this for pics the other day I noticed some stuff that seemed odd, or even not right in my mind. Also it appears the plunge grind lines in the flats on the blade run clear into the tang. Not just grind lines if they go clear over the tang to me. This looks like they were made after the stamping was done. Hope someone knows more about hundred year old (supposedly) knife making than I. But it made me wonder. Thanks again for the comments, I hope like hell it's authentic, given what I paid and how I love old knives. But I have to wonder now. Would welcome any thoughts on it if anyone has any. Thanks again.
Iman, sorry for your concerns. Those bones are sure beautiful. I can't help with the validity questions. ::shrug::
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espn77 wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:32 pmCool sign
That are! ::tu::
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Nice old signs, Keith. ::tu::
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Yesterday afternoon, my trip to the post office produced this beauty of a pocket knife. It now becomes the latest example to be added to this topic or thread and to be added to my general pocket knife collection. It is a WATERVILLE, three blades, swelled center, 3 5/8" closed, three tang stamps, a long matchstrike or blade pull, pocket knife. The main blade front tang stamp says "WATERVILLE (over) CUTLERY CO.(over) CONN." The secondary blade back tang stamp says "WATERVILLE (over) CUTLERY CO.(over) CONN." The third blade front tang stamp says "WATERVILLE (over) CUTLERY CO.(over) CONN." The three blades have NO wobble at all. The three blades ALL have a good, crisp half stop. The three blades ALL have a good, crisp snap. Overall, it is in EXCELLENT condition. I just wiped it off. I took some pictures and here it is.
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The Main Blade Front Tang Stamp.
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The Secondary Blade Back Tang Stamp.
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The Third Blade Front Tang Stamp.
The Third Blade Front Tang Stamp.
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That is one sweet knife, Skip, beautiful.! Great addition.
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Waukonda wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:52 pm That.....
Thank you, Ike. 🍻
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Really nice old knife.
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wlf wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:11 pm Really.....
Thank you, Lyle. 🍻
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Very nice Skip ::tu:: ::tu:: I like it!!
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BWT wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:16 pm Very.....
Thank you, Bill. 🍻
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That Utica sign is a beauty Roger!!! 👍👍👍👍
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New_Windsor_NY wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:15 pm Yesterday afternoon, my trip to the post office produced this beauty of a pocket knife. It now becomes the latest example to be added to this topic or thread and to be added to my general pocket knife collection. It is a WATERVILLE, three blades, swelled center, 3 5/8" closed, three tang stamps, a long matchstrike or blade pull, pocket knife. The main blade front tang stamp says "WATERVILLE (over) CUTLERY CO.(over) CONN." The secondary blade back tang stamp says "WATERVILLE (over) CUTLERY CO.(over) CONN." The third blade front tang stamp says "WATERVILLE (over) CUTLERY CO.(over) CONN." The three blades have NO wobble at all. The three blades ALL have a good, crisp half stop. The three blades ALL have a good, crisp snap. Overall, it is in EXCELLENT condition. I just wiped it off. I took some pictures and here it is.
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Very nice Skip! Waterville knives are hard to find. Great get!! :)
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woodwalker wrote: Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:28 am Very.....
Thank you, Kevin. 🍻
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