Waterville Manufacturing / Waterville Cutlery Info

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Here is a grand old Waterville.
From the NCCA knife show.
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Joe beautiful folder ::tu:: You found some great knives at that show!
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That is a grand old knife Joe!👍👍
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A Waterville large Congress, 4 1/8", Waterville 1847 to 1913, with the type of bone on the knife I would think it dates from the late 1800's. Pretty fancy knife, coined liner top and bottom. All blades tang stamped, curved Waterville on the pens and straight line on the larger blades. First Waterville I've been able to add to the collection.
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That one is gorgeous, JohnR. You can tell that it has been well cared for by every hand it has passed through. And with that many years on it, it has probably passed through a few!
Old bone like that has a beautiful glow about it that is unmatched.
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Reverand wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:14 am That one is gorgeous, JohnR. You can tell that it has been well cared for by every hand it has passed through. And with that many years on it, it has probably passed through a few!
Old bone like that has a beautiful glow about it that is unmatched.
Congratulations on a great find!

Thank you Reverand, the bone does have a glow to it, the blades snap well with no play also.
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John, that knife is a premium all the way around. Beautiful!
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FRJ wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:26 pm John, that knife is a premium all the way around. Beautiful!

Thank you Joe.
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That’s a really nice knife John, another great find ::tu:: ::tu::
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FRJ wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:54 am Here is a grand old Waterville.
From the NCCA knife show.
I missed this one Joe. Very nice old beautiful knife,great find ::tu:: ::tu::
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Thanks so much, Bill. ::tu::
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JohnR wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:26 am A Waterville large Congress, 4 1/8", Waterville 1847 to 1913, with the type of bone on the knife I would think it dates from the late 1800's. Pretty fancy knife, coined liner top and bottom. All blades tang stamped, curved Waterville on the pens and straight line on the larger blades. First Waterville I've been able to add to the collection.
That is a tremendous knife! A really great addition, John, congratulations on that find.
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Ike, Bill, thank you. ::tu:: ::tu::
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Pretty nice Waterville moose/ automotive knife.
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peanut740 wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:28 pm Pretty nice Waterville moose/ automotive knife.
That knife is "pretty nice" like Brigitte Bardot was "pretty nice" in her prime! ::rotflol:: C'est magnifique!!!
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An unusual knife, at least for me. That thing is really nice. ::tu::

I love how the covers are hafted properly where the jigging comes all the way to the bolsters.
Material is removed on the underside of the bone to fit at the bolsters.
Not ground to the level of the bolsters. At least that's how I see it.
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That’s a beautiful knife Roger ::tu:: ::tu::
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Here is a split back whittler with celluloid handle covers I grabbed at auction last year. Its condition and lack of stamps on the secondary blade make me wonder if the blade has be dropped in a newer handle. Any thoughts or observations would be appreciated.
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Lama wrote: Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:11 pm Here is a split back whittler with celluloid handle covers I grabbed at auction last year. Its condition and lack of stamps on the secondary blade make me wonder if the blade has be dropped in a newer handle. Any thoughts or observations would be appreciated.
I never no definitive answer for you. Only this.
I only have one Waterville. It's a 2 blade pen knife. Both blades are stamped.
Your knife looks like it's never been apart and the celluloid is correct for the period.
Hopefully someone with more knowledge on Waterville will show up.
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Thank you for your insight, David.
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They don’t get much better than that one Iman ::tu:: ::tu:: Beautiful knife for sure!!
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Nice!
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::tu:: ::tu::
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Thanks BWT, Peanut, and Edge. Really appreciate the comments and wondered if anyone noticed the stamp? Doesn't look right to me for some reason. Maybe cold stamped. The M looks stamped much deeper than the O, like they were not done at the same time, one at a time with different pressure. And the stamps I have seen don't look like this arch with K. C. M O. underneath. And I have never seen a knife with brass liners under the scales and yet steel divider/liner/center spacer or whatever it is in the middle. Anyone know if this is normal or a red flag? And even the angle of the blade coming off the frame seems too severe, not straight out enough. Also the tangs don't line up. The main blade step up from the tang to spine is way off from the secondary blade. Not even at all, and not square either. When closed they look way off. Shouldn't both tangs be square? Just my impression, but after going over this for pics the other day I noticed some stuff that seemed odd, or even not right in my mind. Also it appears the plunge grind lines in the flats on the blade run clear into the tang. Not just grind lines if they go clear over the tang to me. This looks like they were made after the stamping was done. Hope someone knows more about hundred year old (supposedly) knife making than I. But it made me wonder. Thanks again for the comments, I hope like hell it's authentic, given what I paid and how I love old knives. But I have to wonder now. Would welcome any thoughts on it if anyone has any. Thanks again.
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