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LongBlade wrote:Sweet Ken - no doubt unusual ... Not sure if it is technically correct but I would call it a Norfolk Jack (since the Norfolk patterns I have seen that are generally pen knives are sort of a half swell-center pattern as is this knife
Thanks Lee & Dan (danno50) for the nice comments. I must admit... I have not heard (nor seen) of the Norfolk pattern.
Dan (Old Folder)... that is an awesome MoP!
I'm about to post on the "America's "Little Sheffield" thread a Dwight Devine & Sons' Ulster I just acquired that looks very similar to yours except it has 3 blades... got it at an antique show at the end of last month & it has stayed in my pocket ever since...
LongBlade wrote:Sweet Ken - no doubt unusual ... Not sure if it is technically correct but I would call it a Norfolk Jack (since the Norfolk patterns I have seen that are generally pen knives are sort of a half swell-center pattern as is this knife
Thanks Lee & Dan (danno50) for the nice comments. I must admit... I have not heard )nor seen) of the Norfolk pattern.
Dan (Old Folder)... that is an awesome MoP!
I'm about to post on the "America's "Little Sheffield" thread a Dwight Devine & Sons' Ulster I just acquired that looks very similar to yours except it has 3 blades... got it at an antique show at the end of last month & it has stayed in my pocket ever since...
Thank you Ken
I just viewed your post within the "America's "Little Sheffield" thread.
You had a "VERY GOOD DAY".
It's always important to know what you don't know.
Dan
I just got this one from the guy that is selling off pieces of the Stidham estate.
I'm not sure if it is really a Waterville or a copy. The fit is POOR. I cleaned it up best I could and the blade will not lock open. I can see where the tang was hammered to make the blade in the closed position ride higher when closed. The blade in the open position will not lock. You can put a slight pressure on the blade and it jumps out of the lock bar. The scales look really good like they have very little wear. The scale jigging on one side doesn't match the other. A pieced together knife? SO..... what y'all think?
Before cleaning.....
I re-tipped the blade and then cleaned the blade more than I wanted to but such it is.
Cleaned up......
Mike
"Life is tough.... but it's tougher if you're stupid."....John Wayne
My opinion and as I always say I can be wrong but - The blade looks to be a true Waterville stamped blade and not a counterfeit blade - However I don't know if the handle and the rest are Waterville - at least I have never seen them use black composition handles on any knife I have seen over the years but maybe they did so at the end of their existence - the fact you say the mark side handle doesn't match the pile side handle is very suspicious!!! I have seen that alot on bone or wood handled knives that differ from mark to pile sides but no excuse for synthetic handled knife slabs to not match on each side of knife... I have seen celluloid Watervilles (not many) but no black composition faux jigged plastic handles... The fact you say the tang was hammered and the blade doesn't fit well is suspicious in addition to not locking up (though the spring lock can be broken) - to that point does the width of the blade fit the back spring??? That in itself if not matching suggests cobbling
Just my 2 cents...
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Lee
Well.... the fit really looks poor in general.
As far as the blade comparison to the locking lever.... the lock lever looks wider that the blade. I don't think the lock lever is broken. It locks but is easy to get the lever to jump out of the blade slot.
ALSO.... it looks like there has been some fit-up hammering on to of the tang too. You can see the obvious hammering on the bottom of the pic.... but it does look like the top had a hit too.
Mike
"Life is tough.... but it's tougher if you're stupid."....John Wayne
Mike - thanks for the other photos - looks to have been cobbled to me and no doubt something is very wrong in my opinion - the blade doesn't look like it fits that spring - and perhaps hammered (or whatever) to try and make it work/fit during a shoddy cobbling job... I would like to hear another opinion from somebody else... but I have seen many Watervilles and this knife doesn't fit the bill of the quality of all their knives that I own (one of my favorite CT makers of old) or have seen from other collectors.... I also become suspicious when I see the pins as on this bolster -sometimes I am right - sometimes I am wrong as pins can loosen due to use - in this case the photo doesn't even make them appear flush to the bolster...
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Lee
I've had this for a year or so and just found this thread.Waterville Co,it's 2 3/4 inches long. Very good snap opening and closing. Two blades have half stops.
Sweet Waterville Bill ... Beautiful bone, good blades - note the flush joints!! You have a good taste and make wise purchases in knives considering all the attributes that a nice collectible should have for a collection - at least in my humble opinion ... Given you noted once you haven’t been doing it that long I am impressed with your knives
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Lee
- the blade doesn't look like it fits that spring - and perhaps hammered (or whatever) to try and make it work/fit during a shoddy cobbling job... I would like to hear another opinion from somebody else... but I have seen many Watervilles and this knife doesn't fit the bill of the quality of all their knives that I own (one of my favorite CT makers of old) or have seen from other collectors.... I also become suspicious when I see the pins as on this bolster -sometimes I am right - sometimes I am wrong as pins can loosen due to use - in this case the photo doesn't even make them appear flush to the bolster...
