Baker Hamilton & Pacific Co.

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Harold I can see it now.That is a fine knife. ::tu::
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::tu:: The dogleg & pruner are super......
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A goal for 2019 is to get my knife documentation better organized. I'm hoping someone might be able to identify who made this Pacific Hdwe large cigar cattle knife. It is 4 1/8" closed. Blade tangs are marked "PACIFIC HDWE & STEEL CO" with pattern number 3451. There is a faint "STILETTO" blade etch. The back of the sheepsfoot tang is marked "OIL THE JOINTS". The spey blade has "FOR FLESH ONLY" etched on it and this is probably the earliest knife where I have seen this. I have been able to collect some good documentation, but can't find anything definitive on the maker. I think the knife dates from around 1900 and my guess for maker is Napanoch.

I would be very grateful for any insights or opinions.

Thanks for looking.
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Jerry, that is a fine old knife. Nice documentation so far.
What a nice dramatic shield it has. And it has some etch left on the blade.
I hope someone has some other thoughts on the manufacturer. I like the Napanoch connection.

Thank for showing it here.
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All I can say is that is one beautiful knife Jerry, very nice old knife, thanks for sharing it ::tu:: ::tu::
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Jerry,that is some fine knife.You can narrow your search but figuring out who made a 4 1/8" cigar.Most manufacturer's wouldn't make both a 4 1/8 and 4 1/4. ::hmm::
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Today I came across a Baker, Hamilton & Pacific Company, General Catalog No 7. It looks to be published in 1920 or maybe a little earlier. It included a few of the knives posted here. Unfortunately no indication who was making their knives for them. Just that they are “manufactured in one of the oldest and largest pocket cutlery factories in the United States. Here are a few pictures:
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Thanks for putting that great information in this thread, Bfeldman. ::tu::
Congratulations on getting the catalog. They seem to be fairly scarce.
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Bfeldman wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:16 pm Today I came across a Baker, Hamilton & Pacific Company, General Catalog No 7. It looks to be published in 1920 or maybe a little earlier. It included a few of the knives posted here.
That is a great looking catalog! Thank you for posting the picture of the 3451. ::handshake::
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RalphAlsip wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:00 am
Bfeldman wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:16 pm Today I came across a Baker, Hamilton & Pacific Company, General Catalog No 7. It looks to be published in 1920 or maybe a little earlier. It included a few of the knives posted here.
That is a great looking catalog! Thank you for posting the picture of the 3451. ::handshake::
Sure thing. I’d be curious if you learn anything more about who made the knives for them.
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Jerry, it reminds me of a Utica. ::shrug::

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I picked this up a little while back, but I don't think I posted it yet. Pacific Hardware & Steel Co. The punch is a little short, but other than that, it's all there. I really liked the look of it...
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glennbad wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:34 am I picked this up a little while back, but I don't think I posted it yet. Pacific Hardware & Steel Co. The punch is a little short, but other than that, it's all there. I really liked the look of it...

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That's nice Glenn, a pretty neat knife and an unusual stamp. ::tu:: ::tu::
I like the looks of it too. ::nod::
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FRJ wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:24 am
glennbad wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:34 am I picked this up a little while back, but I don't think I posted it yet. Pacific Hardware & Steel Co. The punch is a little short, but other than that, it's all there. I really liked the look of it...

Pacific1.jpg
Pacific2.jpg
That's nice Glenn, a pretty neat knife and an unusual stamp. ::tu:: ::tu::
I like the looks of it too. ::nod::
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I have one just like it but stamped Ulster Knife Co .
Nice score Glenn .

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glennbad wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:34 am I picked this up a little while back, but I don't think I posted it yet. Pacific Hardware & Steel Co. The punch is a little short, but other than that, it's all there. I really liked the look of it...

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ScoutKnives wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:36 pm I have one just like it but stamped Ulster Knife Co .
Nice score Glenn .

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glennbad wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:34 am I picked this up a little while back, but I don't think I posted it yet. Pacific Hardware & Steel Co. The punch is a little short, but other than that, it's all there. I really liked the look of it...

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Interesting...I think I read of other manufacturers making knives for them.
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Cool knife Glenn. Does the waterfall celluloid show much movement?
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btrwtr wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:08 pm Cool knife Glenn. Does the waterfall celluloid show much movement?
I didn't think so, but this other pic does show some...
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Pacific Hardward and steel.
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Pre 1918; pre Baker Hamilton & Pacific and it is a beauty, Roger.

What a beautiful old Congress and four blades, Wow! ::tu:: ::tu::
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peanut740 wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 4:38 pm Pacific Hardward and steel.
Beautiful knife!
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Wow, that is stellar!
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As has already been said, that is a fantastic old knife. I am quite partial to the etch and the bones. Hang on to that one! ::tu::
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