Pocket Wear & Patinas

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Re: Pocket Wear & Patinas

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I got a lot knives that fit here but here's 4 of my favorites. The Case's wear and tear is my fault the Crown, Queen city, and Lenox were loved by someone else before me.
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There's been a few great "oldies, but goodies" since I visited last.... cool stuff 8) ::tu::

Thanks Ken... (How about that another Ken) Like I said most of my other knives wouldn't really qualify for this thread.... I started a thread called Schrade Evolution under:

Knife Forum > Brand Specific Knife Forums > Canal Street Cutlery Collector's Forum

that showcases an 80+ year old Schrade next to a 2013 Canal Street Cutlery descendant. Maybe I need to come up with thread topic like.... oh, I don't know.... "Oldies, but still got some shine".... I do have a few that would fit into that category.

Anyway, here's another oddball that definitely belongs here and would like to find out more about it.... This EO Jack is ID'd with a tang stamp F. Westpfal / Walden who had a NYCity business address. Maybe a retailer?.... all I know about him is he filed bankruptcy in May, 1917.... so I guess that makes this knife at least 100 years old.... & it looks it!! ::woot::

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YIKES!!!.... I know this is one ugly lookin' knife.... but it was not my intent to scare everyone away!.... ::mdm:: ::teary_eyes:: ::doh:: :roll:

I do hope someone can tell me who made this knife for Westpfal....
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Goins lists "F.WESTPFAL, WALDEN N.Y." circa 1874 to 1928, with no other information given. He also lists a "F.WESTPFAL, NEW YORK" stamp as being 1874 to 1928. I believe it is likely that these are two stamps used by the same company. Perhaps the company was located in New York and some of their knives were manufactured in Walden? Company founded by Frederick Westpfal, who died in 1900. The business was continued by his four sons. No mention of who might have made knives for them.
Levine lists a "Westpfal, Frederick (&Bro.) in New York, NY as a wholesale/retail business. Knives made in US and Germany. circa 1884 to 1940.
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Very interesting, Dan. ::hmm::
So, I guess they recovered from the May 29th, 1917 bankruptcy announced in the American Cutlery issue printed in Sept. of that year. Never found a follow up mention in the later issues. Kind of a bummer.... for that means the knife may now be less than a hundred years old.... ::doh::
I've been hoping I can get a knife that breaks the threshold into the 19th century... but like with this one, there's no telling if it is or isn't? ::shrug::
Thanks for the info.... that's what I find so great about this board! ::groove::
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TheMadHungarian wrote:
All the hardware fittings are German Silver including the earpick used to scoop out earwax long before the invention of the Q Tip :shock:
Sheesh. We're told not to clean the ear canal with a Q Tip (apparently it can kill you?). I can only imagine the fit they would have seeing someone using that.
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Here are some of my EDC's
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Honoring Jerryd's suggestion that I put this knife in this thread.
He says this white Delrin doesn't hold up well. I didn't know that. Looks like I got a goodn'.
Nice enough knife. No pin covers with kind of a soft close on the main blade.

EDIT: Jerry tells me the Delrin is fine. It just tends to crack at the shield.
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Here is a Keeneredge Barlow made for C.M. McClung Hardware in Knoxville TN. The logo on one of the bolsters is nearly worn away.
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313 Mike wrote:Case XX era, rough black 31 jack....atop an old Nash with a fine patina of its own.
Mike.. That is a AWESOME pic!!! ::ds:: Really KOOL!!! ::ds:: ::tu:: ::ds:: John :D
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KAW wrote:....here's another oddball that definitely belongs here and would like to find out more about it.... This EO Jack is ID'd with a tang stamp F. Westpfal / Walden who had a NYCity business address. Maybe a retailer?.... all I know about him is he filed bankruptcy in May, 1917.... so I guess that makes this knife at least 100 years old.... & it looks it!! ::woot::

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Just a quick note that I did get to the Wawarsing Knife Museum over the holiday weekend, which happened to be the last weekend they were open for the 2017 season. Of course I ogled over their collection and they were kind enough to look at a few samples of mine I brought along.... this one was among them & one gent in particular was quite familiar with Westpfal who told me with confidence that these knives were made by NY Knife Co. Very nice folks there. Too bad I have to wait to next summer to visit them again.
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I carried this LFC jack for a few years until I picked up the Robeson jack for $15 at a flea market. I carried the Robeson for 8 or 9 years after that. I must say, I look back on the LFC and kind of laugh. It's a rough knife but it's what I had to carry as a carpenter and it served me well. I carry the Robeson from time to time just to have it with me.
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Joe.... I can ::drool:: ::drool:: ::drool:: ::drool:: over the handle of that LFC jack all day! :mrgreen: ::tu::
Let me see if I can guess what you used that second blade for ::hmm:: .... as a carpenter, it must have come in handy to make divots to mark where you need to drill a hole.... no worries about the drillbit walking on ya then.... and you don't hafta worry about wearing out the tip of the main blade either.... :D
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Here's an old knife some of you may have seen on e-Bay.
Someone put there own blades in this frame a long time ago. They did a god job. No wobble on these blades.
For some reason I think of Waterville or Empire when I see this frame and shield. Any thoughts on that?
The knife is 3 3/4" closed. Dull as a butter knife. I like this kind of stuff when it's well done.
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Very interesting Joe.... ::hmm:: Those are some nail nooks.... just too big to be niks. :lol:
I really like the serpentine shield.... perhaps you should consider posting this knife on the GOT SHIELDS thread too.
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Well since it looks like I 'killed' this thread over a year ago... perhaps I should attempt to revive it...
with this Wardlow Cutlery Co. / Walden NY jack. Don't know much about this one... altho I have read on this board that they were etched with "Chip Away" on their blades which was a trademark used by E.C.Simmons.

Definitely this one has seen some hard use and I usually stay away from such worn out knives but a mysterious brand coming out of Walden, NY as well as fact that someone bothered to sharpen the secondary blade right down to the nail nick really intrigued me.
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I don’t blame you Ken! I too don’t usually buy knives that are that worn out blade wise but it is intriguing and a scarce model. It reminds me of this depression era saying “Use it Up, Wear It Out, Make it Do or Do Without!” This one was kept in use and use and use! What history it exudes ::tu::
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I love the old Schrade Walden 233 Jack Knife that I found in a washing machine (laundromat) about 35 years ago. It has travelled a lot with me, and whittled a lot of wood.
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This ulster knife co has been around the block. I got it today and just sharpened it up so I can put some miles of my own on it. It's still all solid, tight and snappy. It's also a slim old jr cattle packing a lot of blades for its size, just about my favorite kind of knife.
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Got yourself a real beauty there, Paul. ::tu::
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Just ran across this thread, last evening. Here are a couple of nominations, both have been in 'n out of the pocket many times.....an old H.H.H. tool knife and a Peanut from the Tested era.
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Those are some good ones Ike.


Here's an honest one. That dark red bone looks really good with a dark patina.

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