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That is an especially nice knife, Roland. True sunk joints whereas the joints an my knife are not quite sunk.
And very smartly set blades on yours. Joseph Rodgers all day long.
And very smartly set blades on yours. Joseph Rodgers all day long.
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Very nice knife Roland
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Nice old Rodgers KJ ...
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Outstanding quality, as is expected from Rodgers!kootenay joe wrote:Jos. Rodgers, Her Majesty, Sheffield, 3 1/4", sunk joints, ivory, based on markings likely from 1880's Top line knife.
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Only one knife to show Roland!?
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"Only one knife to show Roland"
No, i have an 'old age home' for tip bolstered knives. I will see if any others are willing to have their picture taken.
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No, i have an 'old age home' for tip bolstered knives. I will see if any others are willing to have their picture taken.
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Here are 3 'Tippers', the first 3 i picked up out of the 'tip jar' where i throw 'em all in.
From bottom up: ivory Champagne Pattern, Germany; Vom Cleff Whittler; American Shear & Knife Co. Whittler.
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From bottom up: ivory Champagne Pattern, Germany; Vom Cleff Whittler; American Shear & Knife Co. Whittler.
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Here is the Vom Cleff whittler, almost certainly made by Lutters Co. in Solingen Germany. It is vintage but how old is a guess. Before WW II and possibly before WW I. It is a 'hefty' knife. The pearl is fairly thick and nicely rounded to the liners. Note how thick the master blade spine is. Absolutely correct for a whittler pattern. The master blade is to be tough and strong even though dressed in fancy pearl.
I consider this to be one of my nicest knives.
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I consider this to be one of my nicest knives.
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Here is the 3 1/4" senator whittler marked "American Shear & Knife Co". The etch has been mostly rubbed off but "Tredway Wizard Hand Hammered" can still be made out. I have posted more pictures of this knife here: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=60274&p=701916&hilit=shear#p701916
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The 3 7/8" ivory Champagne Pattern knife is only marked with a logo: the anchor/star/arrow of Wester & Butz, Solingen cutlery manufacturers 1832-1966, This logo was registered in 1896. Note the logo was either poorly stamped or buffed, or both, so it is not there in full. There is no other logo similar enough that i know of for it to be any other maker.
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Here are 3 pearl pen knives with tip bolsters. from the bottom: 3" senator pen, markings shown, can you read them ?; 3 1/4" crown pen, "H&B MFG. Co."; and a 2 7/8" delicate senator pen, Schrade Cut. Co. with some serious blade oxidation.
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And finally for today at least here is a 2 7/8" 4 blade serpentine pen knife, no markings. I know of no name for this pattern. The patterns we have names for are USA & British knives. I think this knife is German and the pattern was likely not made elsewhere.
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" the mark of Franz Frenzel"
Carter's book shows the F.F. logo as having no line (arrow) across the top end of the anchor shaft and the F.F. logo is inside a double circle.
I can see what looks like 2 "F" facing away from each other so it well could be that Carter is not showing variations ?
Either way it is vintage German.
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Carter's book shows the F.F. logo as having no line (arrow) across the top end of the anchor shaft and the F.F. logo is inside a double circle.
I can see what looks like 2 "F" facing away from each other so it well could be that Carter is not showing variations ?
Either way it is vintage German.
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Trust me Roland it's Franz Frenzel
The other knife above you could not identify is "Case Bros. Cut. Co."
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The other knife above you could not identify is "Case Bros. Cut. Co."
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KJ - Great group of tip bolstered knives - love the variety of makers from 2-4 blades ....
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Roland, all very nice knives. I like the nail nick in the Swedge on the Vom Cleff. I notice the plunges for the Swedge on the main are not symmetrical. Do you think this was on purpose or to accommodate the secondary? Thanks for all the background info this is a real education as I have little to no knowledge about German knives.
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I think the slight difference in plunge line side to side was seen as acceptable for hand work. Manufacturers were making knives with the intention of them being used. Attention was paid to function as well as overall appearance. It is only we fussy collector types who even notice minor variations and think of them as imperfections. Likely if you had 5 examples of this knife some would have 'balanced' plunge lines but i think a purchaser in 1920 would look at that and not be concerned. If a blade had a nick hard to access or blades that rubbed, these i think are things that mattered to the buyers of the day.
Also, the picture is much bigger than the knife so any 'imperfections' are exaggerated a few fold.
A helpful way to examine a knife is to take good pictures and enlarge them.
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Also, the picture is much bigger than the knife so any 'imperfections' are exaggerated a few fold.
A helpful way to examine a knife is to take good pictures and enlarge them.
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Quote "Trust me"
thanks for the help D.
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thanks for the help D.
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Actually Roland I like seeing the cutlers hands on the knife. Some people don’t. I’ve made a few knives. Mostly fixed blades. I like having things made by hand. To me that knife is better for it. Thanks for posting it and all the others.
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Thank you James. Being able to show my knives here to other collectors who can appreciate them is a big part of what makes knife collecting such a rewarding hobby. I am having far more fun now than in the pre internet days when i only had myself to show my knives to.
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That was a nice show Roland. I would like to see what else the tip jar holds. Here are some of mine. A Winchester, a Remington, and a Robeson.
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That Remington sure is nice
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All 3 of those are beauties LD64 ... the bone is awesome on all!!
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Great tip bolster show. This is a group of New York Knife Co. with tip bolsters. They all have the Hammer Brand stamp on the master blade.
There are 3 whittlers, a 4 blade congress, a 4 blade senator and a lobster.
There are 3 whittlers, a 4 blade congress, a 4 blade senator and a lobster.
Barry