Rodgers and Sons

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Re: Rodgers and Sons

Post by ObsidianEdge » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:28 pm

Some real nice ones, Roland. A lot of knife in slim form factors.
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Re: Rodgers and Sons

Post by ratlesnake75 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:40 pm

Hey Guys, Its OK to laugh at this knife, I know its a Junker buts its a neat Junker too me, lol... Hahahha
It is an Interesting part of History for Joseph Rodgers. I personally haven't seen another, So I dont know how Scarce they are. If any of you have one that is in better shape, Please post it. From my Readings this knife is a R. Rodgers & Son (Rhoda) & was made Pre 1905
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Re: Rodgers and Sons

Post by michaelspayth » Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:33 am

Only have a couple examples to share. Oddball examples, to say the least, but the craftsmanship always impressed me in every one of their knives that I've seen, so far. It's sort of a dignified appeal that seems to only increase over time..
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Re: Rodgers and Sons

Post by kootenay joe » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:26 pm

Rhoda Rodgers is a new one to me. Mark you find such a wide variety of knives. Maybe you are magnetic ?
Here is one that i might have shown before somewhere in AAPK ?
3 1/4" "Her Majesty" four blade senator with sunk joints. Top of the line knife in it's day, likely 1890's.
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Re: Rodgers and Sons

Post by galvanic1882 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:34 pm

Man I love that knife Roland!!!! ::tu:: :mrgreen:

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Re: Rodgers and Sons

Post by ratlesnake75 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:01 pm

Wonderful Rodgers knife Mr. Roland. Thank you Sir for taking the time to read about that Rhoda knife. I thought it was pretty fascinating myslef
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Re: Rodgers and Sons

Post by Corso » Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:35 pm

ratlesnake75 wrote:Hey Guys, Its OK to laugh at this knife, I know its a Junker buts its a neat Junker too me, lol... Hahahha
It is an Interesting part of History for Joseph Rodgers. I personally haven't seen another, So I dont know how Scarce they are. If any of you have one that is in better shape, Please post it. From my Readings this knife is a R. Rodgers & Son (Rhoda) & was made Pre 1905
Kindest Regards,
Mark
Nice knife but I've read that R. Rodgers & Son (Rhoda) and Rodgers and Sons were different companies

I picked this info up a while back - appologies I don't recall who the original author is as I got it off a closed forum and don't know even if they were the original author. So appologies for not being able to give them credit for the research.

There were probably even more but these were the ones I took note of

George Rodgers, 150 Broad Lane. In 1849, G. Rodgers was listed as a spring knife and razor manufacturer in Edward Street, with a house in Broad Lane.

George Rodgers & Company. This cutler advertised in the Sheffield directory of 1839.

John Rodgers & Sons. The name first appears in a Sheffield directory, 1849, as a table and spring knife manufacturer in Bridge Street.
An interesting sidelight is thrown on John Rodgers's history by a legal case, which was launched in about 1840 by Joseph Rodgers & Sons. The latter took Nowill to court for infringing its name by selling knives stamped "J.Rodgers & Sons", with V(crown)R. According to Joseph Rodgers & Sons, the firm of "John Rodgers & Sons" never existed.

Joseph Rodgers & Company. According to trade advertisement, this company was founded in 1800 (through that may refer to the granting of its "3436" trademark). The name doesn't appear in Sheffield directories until 1871, when the firm of Joseph Rodgers was listed as a spring knife manufacturer at No.29 Norfolk Street. In that directory it was described as "successor to John Rodgers & Sons".

5. R.Rodgers & Sons. This business, which was formed after the death of C.W.Rodgers in 1860, should not be confused with Richard Rodgers & Son. The "R" denotes Rhoda, who inherited the enterprise after the death of her husband.

Richard Rodgers & Sons. In 1841, Richard Henry Rodgers (aged 58) and his son of the same name (aged 20) were spring knife cutlers working in Porter Brook Yard.

William Rodgers.

James Rodgers - the Unwin & Rodgers trademark.

And finally Joseph Rodgers & Sons."In 1821, Joseph Rodgers and Sons secured an appointment as cutlers to His Majesty King George IV, an honor which encouraged them to greater efforts and stimulated their competitors. About that time arose the practices of scoring the top and bottom of the tang with file-cuts or flutings to keep the fingers from slipping, and of stamping the initial of the sovereign (G R, which became WR on the accession of William IV in 1830, and VR when the reign of Queen Victoria began in 1837)".

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Re: Rodgers and Sons

Post by TPK » Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:20 am

Hello Rodgers Fans,

I picked up something historical on the Bay last night. Didn't even realize how historical it is untill I started researching it today. One blade appears to be broken off ? I guess? ::shrug:: but none the less, it's a cool find to me.

The tang stamp seems to read: "Rodgers Cutlers to His Majesty"

Apperently, as you can read, it was made for PINCHIN JOHNSON & Co.

One side reads:

PINCHIN, JOHNSON & Co., LD
GENERAL BUILDINGS, ALDWYCH, LONDON.W.C.2

The other side reads:

MAKERS OF FINE VARNISHES
COLORS, PAINTS & ENAMELS

"ALDWYCH" is a street name in London.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinchin ... Associates

Pinchin & Johnson Co. or Pinchin Johnson & Associates Ltd. was founded in 1834, sold to Courtaulds in 1960 and merged with International Paint in 1968. So the knife must have been produced before 1968. I'm still trying to find out more about this knife so if anyone can add to my knowledge please do so.

Here are 3 pictures from the seller. I will try to clean it & post more pictures of it once I have it. Enjoy the pictures & thanks for any information you wish to share. ::handshake:: :D And as always, if I ever post a knife someone is crazy about, just ask me, I'm easy going & we can probably work out a trade of some kind. ::tu:: I enjoy helping where I can. ::handshake::

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Re: Rodgers and Sons

Post by Corso » Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:35 pm

TPK wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:20 am
Hello Rodgers Fans,

I picked up something historical on the Bay last night. Didn't even realize how historical it is untill I started researching it today. One blade appears to be broken off ? I guess? ::shrug:: but none the less, it's a cool find to me.

The tang stamp seems to read: "Rodgers Cutlers to His Majesty"

Apperently, as you can read, it was made for PINCHIN JOHNSON & Co.

One side reads:

PINCHIN, JOHNSON & Co., LD
GENERAL BUILDINGS, ALDWYCH, LONDON.W.C.2

The other side reads:

MAKERS OF FINE VARNISHES
COLORS, PAINTS & ENAMELS

"ALDWYCH" is a street name in London.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinchin ... Associates

Pinchin & Johnson Co. or Pinchin Johnson & Associates Ltd. was founded in 1834, sold to Courtaulds in 1960 and merged with International Paint in 1968. So the knife must have been produced before 1968. I'm still trying to find out more about this knife so if anyone can add to my knowledge please do so.

Here are 3 pictures from the seller. I will try to clean it & post more pictures of it once I have it. Enjoy the pictures & thanks for any information you wish to share. ::handshake:: :D And as always, if I ever post a knife someone is crazy about, just ask me, I'm easy going & we can probably work out a trade of some kind. ::tu:: I enjoy helping where I can. ::handshake::

Tom
Nice knife always hard to date Rodgers knives - i've several that i've given up on and just accepted they are old

- Cutlers to His Majesty was used in several periods - but the last ended in 1952 as that's when Queen Elizabeth 2nd came to the thrown - She never gave them Royal appointment for some reason

found this the other week some clues to the age/period atleast
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Re: Rodgers and Sons

Post by TPK » Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:09 pm

Great Information Corso! ::tu:: So if I'm reading the tang stamp right, and it's "HIS", it's not the first His Majesty because that was before 1834. Placing it somewhere between 1901 & 1952. Thanks for the input! ::tu:: ::handshake:: ::super_happy::

Tom
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Re: Rodgers and Sons

Post by Corso » Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:47 pm

I would guess it is probably the 1936-52 period if there is no norfork street stamp?

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Re: Rodgers and Sons

Post by TPK » Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:11 pm

Thank you Sir! ::handshake:: I'll post some more pictures when I get it, and clean it a bit. So in a week or so. ::tu:: :D
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