Allen Cutlery Co. Newburgh, N.Y.

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I received this Allen Cutlery Co., Newburgh, N.Y., two blade pocket knife, yesterday. I really like these all metal, simple design knives. This one fits in nicely with my other 3 Allens. I'm still searching for the patterns that I don't already have, to complete the "series." :D
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I have posted a display and ad for the Allen company previously. However as will happen around here while looking for something else I found a few pieces you might like to see. there aare four Allen type knives one has a niagara Falls shield obviously a souvenir knife it is marked only Made in USA. Most Allens have a single piece wrap around handle that you can see through bottom to top. However the 2 blade version seems to have a backspring. Apparently the top rivit could be large or small headed rivit. I included a pic of an Allen box that turned up. Also I ran across a group of Eagle knives These also had a single piece handle however it was bent so that it covered the back of the knife they also do not seem to have a back spring however the back of the one piece handle seems to help serve that purpose. I also included a NYK Wallkill river knife which it seems to have an eagle type handle but no backspring and to me almost seems like a combination of the Allen and Eagle. I have also seen these from Walden Knife I think I have one but I have no idea where it is. LT PS I was just putting these knives away and saw another one which I have no idea about it is a modern military style 2 blade and I have never seen another????? it is marked Allen Newburgh NY
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lt632ret wrote:I have posted a display and ad for the Allen company previously. However as will happen around here while looking for something else I found a few pieces you might like to see. there aare four Allen type knives one has a niagara Falls shield obviously a souvenir knife it is marked only Made in USA. Most Allens have a single piece wrap around handle that you can see through bottom to top. However the 2 blade version seems to have a backspring. Apparently the top rivit could be large or small headed rivit. I included a pic of an Allen box that turned up. Also I ran across a group of Eagle knives These also had a single piece handle however it was bent so that it covered the back of the knife they also do not seem to have a back spring however the back of the one piece handle seems to help serve that purpose. I also included a NYK Wallkill river knife which it seems to have an eagle type handle but no backspring and to me almost seems like a combination of the Allen and Eagle. I have also seen these from Walden Knife I think I have one but I have no idea where it is. LT PS I was just putting these knives away and saw another one which I have no idea about it is a modern military style 2 blade and I have never seen another????? it is marked Allen Newburgh NY
I always enjoy seeing new Allen patterns and variations. A few posts ago (page 2), I posted pictures of a red handled knife that looks like the green handled knife in the third picture that you just posted. I now have two of them and I don't know which company made them. The only stamp is MADE IN USA. Here they are, click to enlarge.
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I just bought this knife a few minutes ago. When I receive it, I'll give it the once over and post MY pictures in the appropriate location(s). These pictures are the seller's.
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Well I received it this past Friday. My fifth Allen Cutlery Company pocket knife. This one is stamped on the handle and on the tang. It is the shortest one out of the five, measuring at 3 1/8" closed. The "before" pictures are in the post just above this one. I gave it a gentle cleaning and here are MY pictures.
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This one is on eBay for a, in my opinion, ridiculously high price.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Allen- ... Swm-1criCL
Any guesses as to what the hole in the rear of the handle is/was for? A home installed, but now missing bail?
I've never seen, nor do I own, any Allen Cutlery Co. knife with 3 pins/rivets. So I don't think the hole is a missing pin or rivet. It's hard to see, but the hole is on both handle sides.
The pictures below are the seller's.
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Today I obtained this Allen Cutlery Company pocket knife. I'll clean it up when I receive it and post MY pictures in the appropriate location(s). These pictures are the seller's.
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Last night I bought this Allen Cutlery Company pocket knife. It's the elusive No. 20, the Ni--er Chaser. Not my term, that's what it's called (see page 1). I'll clean it up when I receive it and post MY pictures in the appropriate location(s). These pictures are the seller's.
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This Allen Cutlery Company pocket knife arrived today. Each blade has a tang stamp. It received a good cleaning. The "before" pictures are 2 posts above this one. These are MY pictures. Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
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I came across this newspaper clipping while searching for other information. It is from the Poughkeepsie Eagle News, dated Aug 22, 1925. I have no further information as regards the information given in the clipping. Just thought you might be interested in it, Skip. Clicking on the image will enlarge it enough to be read.
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danno50 wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:09 am I came across this newspaper clipping while searching for other information. It is from the Poughkeepsie Eagle News, dated Aug 22, 1925. I have no further information as regards the information given in the clipping. Just thought you might be interested in it, Skip. Clicking on the image will enlarge it enough to be read.
Thank you Dan! It's an interesting article that I enjoyed reading. ::tu:: Again, thank you for sharing. ::handshake::
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I received this Allen Cutlery Company pocket knife today. This is the first one of this particular pattern that I've been able to obtain. No tang stamps, but both stamps are on the handle. I gave it a minor, gentle, cleaning. The "before" pictures are 4 posts above this one. These are MY pictures. Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
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I just bought this single blade jack knife, tang stamped EAGLE KNIFE CO. It is a "cousin" of the ALLEN CUTLERY COMPANY, NEWBURGH, N.Y. Hopefully it will arrive sometime next week and join my only other (so far) EAGLE KNIFE CO. knife (the last or bottom three pictures). I'll give it the once over and I'll post MY pictures in the appropriate location(s). The first or top four pictures are the seller's.
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I just bought this single blade jack knife, tang stamped GEO. SCHRADE, PAT APD FOR. It is a "cousin" of the ALLEN CUTLERY COMPANY, NEWBURGH, N.Y. and also a "cousin" of the EAGLE KNIFE CO. Hopefully it will arrive sometime next week. It looks great but I'll give it the once over and I'll post MY pictures in the appropriate location(s). These pictures are the seller's.
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Today, I received this Allen Cutlery Company, 2 blade, jack knife. It needed no serious cleaning, but I did give it the once over. I can not find ANY trace of a tang or handle stamp. However, I am 100% sure that this is an Allen Cutlery Company pocket knife. These are MY pictures.
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I thought that I'd get the immediate family together for a portrait. No "cousins", just ALLEN CUTLERY COMPANY knives.
Not bad considering I obtained my first one only nine months ago. You may ask, why do I collect ALLEN CUTLERY COMPANY knives? The company was located in a city in Orange County, New York called Newburgh. If you look at the map pictured below, follow the Hudson River (the blue line) from the top, going south and on the left side, the west side, you'll see the city of Newburgh. What is right below Newburgh? Yup, my home town, New Windsor, New York. You can also see Walden, Ellenville, Kingston, etc., etc. That is why I collect ALLEN CUTLERY COMPANY knives. It's the only cutlery company Newburgh ever had, as far as I know, and it only existed 1917-1925. Click on any picture to ENLARGE.
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Today's trek to the post office produced this knife. A single blade jack pocket knife, tang stamped GEO SCHRADE, PAT APD FOR. It measures 3 1/8" closed. It is a "cousin" of the ALLEN CUTLERY COMPANY, NEWBURGH, N.Y. and also a "cousin" of the EAGLE KNIFE CO. It is in EXCELLENT condition and I didn't have to do anything to it. These are MY pictures.
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I just bought this Allen Cutlery Company, Newburgh, N.Y. pocket knife (1917-1925). It's the elusive No. 20, the Ni--er Chaser. Not my term, that's what it's called (see the ad below). This will be my second knife in this pattern. I'll clean it up when I receive it and post pictures in the appropriate location(s). You can click on the picture of the ad to ENLARGE it.
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This ALLEN CUTLERY COMPANY, NEWBURGH, N.Y. (1917-1925), pocket knife arrived today. This is my second one of this particular pattern, No.20, that I've been able to obtain. No tang stamps, but both stamps are on the handle. I gave it a very minor, gentle cleaning. The "before" pictures are posted right above this one. These are the pictures I took. Click on a picture to ENLARGE.
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It's been just about a year since I obtained my first Allen Cutlery Company pocket knife and just about two months now since I added an Allen Cutlery Company pocket knife to my modest collection. Well today the "drought" has finally ended. This one "should" arrive within a few days. I'll clean it up, take some pictures and post them in the appropriate location(s).
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Hi Skip,

Cool knives! Sorry I hadn't seen these before or I would have added them to my "Radar" of knives that I look for. ::tu:: :D
And Yep, that's pretty close to your home town. Who wouldn't be interested in knives made that close to home? :D
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TPK wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:38 pm Hi Skip,

Cool knives! Sorry I hadn't seen these before or I would have added them to my "Radar" of knives that I look for. ::tu:: :D
And Yep, that's pretty close to your home town. Who wouldn't be interested in knives made that close to home? :D
Thank you Tom. You have a better chance of spotting Elvis Presley than finding one of these knives. There is one on eBay right now, but I have an unresolved issue with the seller. Plus he/she is asking a ridiculous amount of money for it.
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New_Windsor_NY wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:47 pm
TPK wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:38 pm Hi Skip,

Cool knives! Sorry I hadn't seen these before or I would have added them to my "Radar" of knives that I look for. ::tu:: :D
And Yep, that's pretty close to your home town. Who wouldn't be interested in knives made that close to home? :D
Thank you Tom. You have a better chance of spotting Elvis Presley than finding one of these knives. There is one on eBay right now, but I have an unresolved issue with the seller. Plus he/she is asking a ridiculous amount of money for it.
::handshake::
Ok, I give up already! If they are hard to find there, chances are close to Zero I'll find any here. Too bad, they look pretty cool. :|
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TPK wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:04 pm
New_Windsor_NY wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:47 pm
TPK wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:38 pm Hi Skip,

Cool knives! Sorry I hadn't seen these before or I would have added them to my "Radar" of knives that I look for. ::tu:: :D
And Yep, that's pretty close to your home town. Who wouldn't be interested in knives made that close to home? :D
Thank you Tom. You have a better chance of spotting Elvis Presley than finding one of these knives. There is one on eBay right now, but I have an unresolved issue with the seller. Plus he/she is asking a ridiculous amount of money for it.
::handshake::
Ok, I give up already! If they are hard to find there, chances are close to Zero I'll find any here. Too bad, they look pretty cool. :|
No problem. What's even more frustrating than the scarcity of these knives (actually I'm glad they're scarce), is that NOBODY can tell me where the factory was located. I've tried the Newburgh Chamber Of Commerce and the Newburgh Historical Society, with no success. ::shrug::
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New_Windsor_NY wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:13 pm
TPK wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:04 pm
New_Windsor_NY wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:47 pm

Thank you Tom. You have a better chance of spotting Elvis Presley than finding one of these knives. There is one on eBay right now, but I have an unresolved issue with the seller. Plus he/she is asking a ridiculous amount of money for it.
::handshake::
Ok, I give up already! If they are hard to find there, chances are close to Zero I'll find any here. Too bad, they look pretty cool. :|
No problem. What's even more frustrating than the scarcity of these knives (actually I'm glad they're scarce), is that NOBODY can tell me where the factory was located. I've tried the Newburgh Chamber Of Commerce and the Newburgh Historical Society, with no success. ::shrug::
Have you tried books, libraries, newpaper artikels? Stuff like that. Surely someone has to know. ::hmm:: Search for books about the town or county history maybe. ::shrug::
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