English Jacks show yours

[doglegg]

I've been admiring these English Jacks and realized I had one in my Queen drawer!001.JPG003.JPG
Treefarmer

[treefarmer]

Thanks for the acknowledgements, fellers!
According to the older Queen chart, there is a #28 English Jack that has a clip for a main blade. Maybe I'll run up on one someday.
Treefarmer

[fishin1635]

fishin 1635

That is a fine example of the quality and level of finish that Utica could and long ago did produce in its pocketknife line.

What is its length?

It’s 4 1/2” closed, thanks stumpstaler

[Oledadsknives]

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[Oledadsknives]

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[peanut740]

Jimbo,neither of those 2 would be considered English jacks.The last on is an easy opener and the other's just a jack or Balloon jack.

[Miller Bro's]

Remington knife is a counterfeit.

[peanut740]

Remington knife is a counterfeit.

You're right MB,I barely looked at it,just noticed it wasn't an English jack.

[Oledadsknives]

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[stumpstalker]

fishin 1635

That is a fine example of the quality and level of finish that Utica could and long ago did produce in its pocketknife line.

What is its length?

It’s 4 1/2” closed, thanks stumpstaler

fishin 1635:

I see that your knife's style of bolster has been referred to on here as a "Washington bolster". If that designation is referring to the bolster on the pen knife attributed to George Washington that resides with the Alexandria, Virginia Masonic Lodge, would Forum members agree that the resemblance is a very loose one?

Here is a photo of the Camillus-made copy of the famed Washington knife. I only use a photo of the copy, as the only photo of the original 18th Century knife that I can find online does not reveal the bolster very well.

Nevertheless, that is a superb Utica English jack you have, with an impressive, highly finished bolster.

[fishin1635]

fishin 1635

That is a fine example of the quality and level of finish that Utica could and long ago did produce in its pocketknife line.

What is its length?

It’s 4 1/2” closed, thanks stumpstaler

fishin 1635:

I see that your knife's style of bolster has been referred to on here as a "Washington bolster". If that designation is referring to the bolster on the pen knife attributed to George Washington that resides with the Alexandria, Virginia Masonic Lodge, would Forum members agree that the resemblance is a very loose one?

Here is a photo of the Camillus-made copy of the famed Washington knife. I only use a photo of the copy, as the only photo of the original 18th Century knife that I can find online does not reveal the bolster very well.

Nevertheless, that is a superb Utica English jack you have, with an impressive, highly finished bolster.

I agree the resemblance is a loose one. From what I’ve read the Washington bolster was born on Washington Street in Sheffield. Camillus was one of the first to use the Washington bolsters.

Thank you for the kind words

[edge213]

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What do you mean by posting "R"?

[peanut740]

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What do you mean by posting "R"?

He went and deleted the posts after they were commented on,and reposted R.I don't know what the R is suppose to mean.

[edge213]

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What do you mean by posting "R"?

He went and deleted the posts after they were commented on,and reposted R.I don't know what the R is suppose to mean.

Thanks Roger. That must be why I couldn't follow the recent posts

[Oledadsknives]

Hey guys, I posted what I thought were English jacks but the comments said they weren’t. I erased the pics and all and it wouldn’t let me close it without something in the post so I put R for removed. Didn’t want to leave em there.

Jimbo

[Oledadsknives]

Never heard of an English jack but I guess mine wasn’t long enough or something. I fella said the Remington was a fake which I had no idea of so I figured better to just erase and go on.

Jimbo

[edge213]

Never heard of an English jack but I guess mine wasn’t long enough or something. I fella said the Remington was a fake which I had no idea of so I figured better to just erase and go on.

Jimbo

I would suggest that next time something like this happens, leave the post.
We all make mistakes, nothing to be ashamed of.
Some of us could learn by seeing the fake knives.
The way it stands now that part of the thread makes no sense.

[peanut740]

Never heard of an English jack but I guess mine wasn’t long enough or something. I fella said the Remington was a fake which I had no idea of so I figured better to just erase and go on.

Jimbo

I would suggest that next time something like this happens, leave the post.
We all make mistakes, nothing to be ashamed of.
Some of us could learn by seeing the fake knives.
The way it stands now that part of the thread makes no sense.

[Reverand]

Hey guys, I posted what I thought were English jacks but the comments said they weren’t. I erased the pics and all and it wouldn’t let me close it without something in the post so I put R for removed. Didn’t want to leave em there.

Jimbo

I was going to guess that you were becoming a pirate!
But your explanation makes more sense.

[Oledadsknives]

Never heard of an English jack but I guess mine wasn’t long enough or something. I fella said the Remington was a fake which I had no idea of so I figured better to just erase and go on.

Jimbo

I would suggest that next time something like this happens, leave the post.
We all make mistakes, nothing to be ashamed of.
Some of us could learn by seeing the fake knives.
The way it stands now that part of the thread makes no sense.

[Oledadsknives]

Hey guys, I posted what I thought were English jacks but the comments said they weren’t. I erased the pics and all and it wouldn’t let me close it without something in the post so I put R for removed. Didn’t want to leave em there.

Jimbo

I was going to guess that you were becoming a pirate!
But your explanation makes more sense.

Ha! Yea I’m a 70 year old rebel counterfitter!!LOL!

[chickenman62]

Here is a Case XX, a Robeson ShureEdge and a Federal Knife Co.

[stumpstalker]

chickenman62:

Beautiful jack knives there. Wish I had them in my collection. But they do not appear to meet the definition of “English Jack”, if the designation is to have a specific collector-useful meaning. And I am going only on eyeballing, not having measurements or pattern numbers.

“ENGLISH JACKS……deluxe large- sized (over 4-inch) slim, regular, and sleeveboard jack knives….” -- –source: LEVINE’S GUIDE TO KNIVES AND THEIR VALUES, 3rd edition.

Super-nice knives, though; and look like they fall within one of the few types I attempt to collect, being I would guess jacks on the heavy side, circa 3-5/8 to 3 ¾-inch, one being an Easy-Opener.

[chickenman62]

Thanks for the information. I have some sheffield jacks to post but maybe they will not be right. Tell what you think.
Taylor Eyewitness, C. Johnson Westernworks, and Needham Brothers.

[stumpstalker]

Sounds like they are good candidates for the thread entitled, ANTIQUE KNIVES MADE IN ENGLAND.

As confusing as it might be, "English jacks" are not necessarily knives made in England, among collectors. They have characteristics as described above and are of a pattern whose inspiration is ascribed to Sheffield, but as vintage knives they are usually made either in the U. S., England, or Germany,

Bernard Levine's GUIDES are a good source for generally accepted knife collectors' terms. Those terms facilitate understanding among knife hobbyists.