Nice old bone
Nice old bone
This knife is a blending of two knives that were so close to one another that some of the parts were actually interchangeable.
First is a Schrade single blade trapper without a tang stamp. Another interesting thing about this knife is it was made without a Swinden key. So, if it is indeed a Schrade, it was made prior to about 1961.
My apologies for losing the pictures of the second knife, this one that donated the handles and back spring. I've had this knife for some time, so I'm sure I have photographed it at some point but I cannot locate the pictures. The tang stamp is illegible, there's enough left to see that there was something there one time but I have not been able to read. But I love the bone on this knife, perhaps someone can identify it by the jigging. It would not surprise me if this was a Schrade Cut Co. pattern and early Schrade bone.
One picture I have of this knife before it was completely revamped is of the parts that were left over after I put it back together.
These are the left over parts, the blade in the liner. Anyone recognize the blade?
The knives were pretty much the same shape and same length. The spring out of the newer knife would not fit the old knife because the rocker pin hole was off by about 3/16". I used the spring out of the old knife and just put the newer blade in the old knife. It was not quite as easy as it might seem, getting it apart without breaking the bone beyond repair was an accomplishment.
There was one or two pin cracks even before I started working on it. I put the knife in my knife vise to compress the Springs, and it was going great. Then I took the tension off of a vise and let the knife support the full weight of the back spring. When I released the vise, it had allowed the spring to tension the blade and we heard a crack and a piece of bone about half an inch long broke out on either side of the rocker pin. At that point I was committed so I epoxy the chip back in, and used CA glue on the pin cracks.
I still don't know where the donor knife with a beautiful bone came from but I would like to get a lot more of it, I think it really looks great.
This is the new composite, combination or Franken knife knife. It makes a very nice EDC!
I thought it was worth the effort to save it!
First is a Schrade single blade trapper without a tang stamp. Another interesting thing about this knife is it was made without a Swinden key. So, if it is indeed a Schrade, it was made prior to about 1961.
My apologies for losing the pictures of the second knife, this one that donated the handles and back spring. I've had this knife for some time, so I'm sure I have photographed it at some point but I cannot locate the pictures. The tang stamp is illegible, there's enough left to see that there was something there one time but I have not been able to read. But I love the bone on this knife, perhaps someone can identify it by the jigging. It would not surprise me if this was a Schrade Cut Co. pattern and early Schrade bone.
One picture I have of this knife before it was completely revamped is of the parts that were left over after I put it back together.
These are the left over parts, the blade in the liner. Anyone recognize the blade?
The knives were pretty much the same shape and same length. The spring out of the newer knife would not fit the old knife because the rocker pin hole was off by about 3/16". I used the spring out of the old knife and just put the newer blade in the old knife. It was not quite as easy as it might seem, getting it apart without breaking the bone beyond repair was an accomplishment.
There was one or two pin cracks even before I started working on it. I put the knife in my knife vise to compress the Springs, and it was going great. Then I took the tension off of a vise and let the knife support the full weight of the back spring. When I released the vise, it had allowed the spring to tension the blade and we heard a crack and a piece of bone about half an inch long broke out on either side of the rocker pin. At that point I was committed so I epoxy the chip back in, and used CA glue on the pin cracks.
I still don't know where the donor knife with a beautiful bone came from but I would like to get a lot more of it, I think it really looks great.
This is the new composite, combination or Franken knife knife. It makes a very nice EDC!
I thought it was worth the effort to save it!
Dale
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Re: Nice old bone
Looks really good, nice save on that one!
Re: Nice old bone
You can’t beat the looks of old bone. That turned out really great!
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Re: Nice old bone
That sure is a beauty Dale. That bone is a work of art!
Man, I love that L..O..N..G pull on the old blade. Do you think there is a lot of the blade missing? The blade still has a nice shape. At least it isn't bowed in the middle from poor sharpening.
You just can't beat the look of a good set of bone handles.!!!
Great job!!
My hat is off to you my friend!
Man, I love that L..O..N..G pull on the old blade. Do you think there is a lot of the blade missing? The blade still has a nice shape. At least it isn't bowed in the middle from poor sharpening.
You just can't beat the look of a good set of bone handles.!!!
Great job!!
My hat is off to you my friend!
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Re: Nice old bone
That bone!!! That is the GOLD STANDARD...in my book!!! Great job in finding it a new home
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Re: Nice old bone
That's a beauty, alright, Dale! The donor bone/shield/frame looks Camillus to me, but don't quote me on that!
Re: Nice old bone
That does look good. Nice save!
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Re: Nice old bone
Whatever it WAS, it IS sho’ nuff fantastic now! I agree that the bone looks Camillus to me.
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Re: Nice old bone
Thank you all, I'm glad you liked it.
I was so focused on trade because of the knife from which I got the blade, I really hadn't thought about it being Camillus. I will have to look at it some of my old bone handle Camillus knives and see if there is anything close to this jigging pattern. I just did a quick look in my Camillus case and it appears that it is very close to some old Camillus' that I have.
I will post pictures if I find it close to some of the knives I have.
I was so focused on trade because of the knife from which I got the blade, I really hadn't thought about it being Camillus. I will have to look at it some of my old bone handle Camillus knives and see if there is anything close to this jigging pattern. I just did a quick look in my Camillus case and it appears that it is very close to some old Camillus' that I have.
I will post pictures if I find it close to some of the knives I have.
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After a quick search through a couple dozen older bone handled Camillus knives I thought these were the closest to the knife in the OP.
The knife in the OP is the center knife in this picture.
After staring at a bunch of knives with jigged bone handles they all start to look the same after a while, and they all look different as well.
You guys decide which of the bone handles look most like the ones in the OP knife.
You guys are awesome, I really appreciate the help!
The knife in the OP is the center knife in this picture.
After staring at a bunch of knives with jigged bone handles they all start to look the same after a while, and they all look different as well.
You guys decide which of the bone handles look most like the ones in the OP knife.
You guys are awesome, I really appreciate the help!
Dale
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Re: Nice old bone
I don't know Dale.... I would have to say "none of the above"....
The closest MIGHT be "D" but there is a lot of wear so it's hard to tell.
I don't know what that jigging pattern is or who did it BUT.... it is beautiful.
The closest MIGHT be "D" but there is a lot of wear so it's hard to tell.
I don't know what that jigging pattern is or who did it BUT.... it is beautiful.
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Re: Nice old bone
Look at these.....
(Just throwing these out there)
Camillus... Remington Winchester
(Just throwing these out there)
Camillus... Remington Winchester
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Re: Nice old bone
I thought B was the closest to the OP but not an exact mstch.
It is difficult for me to tell if any are a match. I often think there is a slight difference in jigging between batches of bone from Culpeppers that are supposed to be the same pattern.
I seem to remember a discussion long ago in a forum far away about the mechanical wear factor in the old jigging machines causing a variation between batches of bone. But I don't remember where I heard that, or if it was the brisket sandwich I had for dinner.
Hopefully someone can figure out where the bone on the OP knife came from.
It is difficult for me to tell if any are a match. I often think there is a slight difference in jigging between batches of bone from Culpeppers that are supposed to be the same pattern.
I seem to remember a discussion long ago in a forum far away about the mechanical wear factor in the old jigging machines causing a variation between batches of bone. But I don't remember where I heard that, or if it was the brisket sandwich I had for dinner.
Hopefully someone can figure out where the bone on the OP knife came from.
Dale
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Re: Nice old bone
The more you look it the OP knife, the more random the pattern looks.....
I don't know.... but whoever made that pattern did a great job! It is so rough, deep, random..... beautiful.
I don't suppose it could be natural could it?
I don't know.... but whoever made that pattern did a great job! It is so rough, deep, random..... beautiful.
I don't suppose it could be natural could it?
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