Pattern and brand names?
Pattern and brand names?
What are the pattern names of knives with a sheepfoot opposite a spear blade?
I've seen one called a half congress. Are there any others?
What about both sheepfoot and spear on the same pivot?
This pattern is a good substitute for a stockman because I don't need the spey blade on the stockman and I need the names of patterns and brands to do my searches.
I also prefer the sheepfoot to the wharnecliffe.
Many thanks.
I've seen one called a half congress. Are there any others?
What about both sheepfoot and spear on the same pivot?
This pattern is a good substitute for a stockman because I don't need the spey blade on the stockman and I need the names of patterns and brands to do my searches.
I also prefer the sheepfoot to the wharnecliffe.
Many thanks.
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Well, GEC calls it a "Dixie Possum Skinner" but that's not exactly what you're looking for because the secondary blade is neither a Wharncliffe nor a Sheepsfoot (I call it a Sheepcliffe).
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rough-Rider-RR ... 1104!US!-1
You could get a Moose and modify the profile of the secondary blade.
Case Moose - eBay picture.
Pick up an inexpensive Rough Rider and modify the secondary blade. That way if you feel you've messed it up, you won't have much tied up in it. Plus you can try it and see if that's really what you're looking for. ---► Forged on the anvil of discipline.
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The Few. The Proud.
Jerry D.
This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
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Thanks Jerry.
Apart from the half congress, the blade combination seems haphazard and inconsistent.
But we wouldn't want it any other way, would we?
I hope there are still some Dixie Possums around so that the knife can be put to the use for which it was intended.
Apart from the half congress, the blade combination seems haphazard and inconsistent.
But we wouldn't want it any other way, would we?
I hope there are still some Dixie Possums around so that the knife can be put to the use for which it was intended.
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If you're looking for one, there are several here. ---► https://www.traditionalpocketknives.com ... nCutlery82
Forged on the anvil of discipline.
The Few. The Proud.
Jerry D.
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"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
The Few. The Proud.
Jerry D.
This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
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I can't recall seeing very many 2 blade knives with spear primary and and a sheepsfoot secondary. One that comes to mind is a GEC 79 Montana Workhorse, but they are very scarce. A picture is included below. The GEC 35 Churchill is nice knife with useful blades in my opinion, however it has a clip blade as the primary. If you could live with 3 blades the Canal Street Cannitler is a pattern I find very useful.Edgewise wrote:What are the pattern names of knives with a sheepfoot opposite a spear blade?
Churchills with acrylic handles seem readily available and the bone and stag are also findable. Cannitlers are also pretty easy to find.
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Well frogs. I missed the specification that the main be a spear blade. Sugar.
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"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
The Few. The Proud.
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"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
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The possum skinner was a great suggestion.jerryd6818 wrote:I missed the specification that the main be a spear blade.
I had a mental block regarding the Northwoods Presidential. This knife is in my pocket quite often so it seems like it would have been top of mind.
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I'm the one who forgot to include clip point, so we were on the same page all along.jerryd6818 wrote:Well frogs. I missed the specification that the main be a spear blade. Sugar.
I also didn't specify that I'm a cheapo brass turd and only EDC knives I'm prepared to lose. So your eye candy suggestions would all end up as my safest and most unused queens in the palace, especially that AAPK equal end club knife beauty with the sheepfoot .
A suitable half congress may turn up, or I may have to settle for a side by side jack.
I realize it's a tall order but I really love your pictures.
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Paul, I hadn't forgotten that you're a tightwad. That's why I recommended the Rough Rider (under $15 shipped) and modify the secondary blade (unless 4-1/8" closed is too large for you).
Forged on the anvil of discipline.
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"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
The Few. The Proud.
Jerry D.
This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
Re: Pattern and brand names?
Modify? If you mean with a screw driver and a vise grip then I'm your man.jerryd6818 wrote:Paul, I hadn't forgotten that you're a tightwad. That's why I recommended the Rough Rider (under $15 shipped) and modify the secondary blade (unless 4-1/8" closed is too large for you).
Now why couldn't RR put a sheepfoot on that knife ? Who needs a spey blade anymore?
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I have questions about two of the knives that members posted pictures of. First, do GEC 828218 Northfield Dixie Possum Skinners have two back springs or one and a cut away liner? Second, is Cannitller just a model name for Canal Street's whittler or is there some thing different in its assembly?
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I'm not wildly enthusiastic about spey blades but I keep using my Stockman's spey blade to shave a thin layer off a surface with a sweeping motion. That's the quickest way to get blobs of tree pitch off the deck before staining it. I just shaved off the excess dried glue that squeezed out while gluing down the edge of Linoleum the same way. Even though I do not do unmentionable things to farm animals and prefer an easier to clean fixed blade for field dressing deer my spey blades keep getting used.Edgewise wrote: [...] Who needs a spey blade anymore?
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Cannitler is a combination of "Canoe" and "Whittler". It has the bolsters of a Canoe and the spear blade of a Canoe. It has 3 blades in the configuration of a Whittler with both secondaries on the same end with the primary riding on both springs and sitting in between both secondaries when closed.Modern Slip Joints wrote: is Cannitller just a model name for Canal Street's whittler or is there some thing different in its assembly?
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That being the case either it is Cannal Street's trade marked name or my Queen is also a Cannitler. They should have used one less n and one more t. I'm happier with canoe whittler, cigar whittler and railsplitter whittler as separate words. Using two words leaves less to decode.
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Just one.Modern Slip Joints wrote: First, do GEC 828218 Northfield Dixie Possum Skinners have two back springs or one
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I am fairly certain the word "Cannitler" was originated by Canal Street specifically for the knife they were making. Not sure if it is trademarked or not. Also not sure if other makers would use the same term for a similarly made knife. Canal Street Cannitlers are no longer being made. Here is a link from 2014 that provides more description. https://www.knivesshipfree.com/blog/can ... cannitler/Modern Slip Joints wrote:That being the case either it is Cannal Street's trade marked name or my Queen is also a Cannitler.
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Good blade use! Come to think of it, the Spey is the closest thing to a scalpel on a pocket knife.Modern Slip Joints wrote:I'm not wildly enthusiastic about spey blades but I keep using my Stockman's spey blade to shave a thin layer off a surface with a sweeping motion. That's the quickest way to get blobs of tree pitch off the deck before staining it. I just shaved off the excess dried glue that squeezed out while gluing down the edge of Linoleum the same way. Even though I do not do unmentionable things to farm animals and prefer an easier to clean fixed blade for field dressing deer my spey blades keep getting used.Edgewise wrote: [...] Who needs a spey blade anymore?
Btw, how come no one mentioned the Schrade Wrangler 93OT ? (not that it's any more available or affordable than a GEC I suppose ) but I'm interested why. picture from AAPK member stores.
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Quote from O.P. "What are the pattern names of knives with a sheepfoot opposite a spear blade?"
Pattern names are based more on the frame size & shape than on blade choices. e.g., a whittler is a 3 blade, 2 spring knife in which the master blade bears on both springs. The master blade can be a clip, spear point, wharncliffe or sheepsfoot. Etc. for other patterns.
A knife with a blade at either end, both on the same spring, is either a pen knife if 3 1/2" or less, or a double end jack if over 3 1/2"
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Pattern names are based more on the frame size & shape than on blade choices. e.g., a whittler is a 3 blade, 2 spring knife in which the master blade bears on both springs. The master blade can be a clip, spear point, wharncliffe or sheepsfoot. Etc. for other patterns.
A knife with a blade at either end, both on the same spring, is either a pen knife if 3 1/2" or less, or a double end jack if over 3 1/2"
kj
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Thanks for clearing that up kj. It explains a lot.
As far as substitute scalpels are concerned, maybe the cotton sampler blade is even better than a spey blade, but the sampler, like the hawksbill, doesn't seem as ready as the stockman or congress to share its frame with other blades. (ok guys, show me how wrong I am )
As far as substitute scalpels are concerned, maybe the cotton sampler blade is even better than a spey blade, but the sampler, like the hawksbill, doesn't seem as ready as the stockman or congress to share its frame with other blades. (ok guys, show me how wrong I am )
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I think you are correct. The cotton sampler blade is only seen as a single blade knife. It does not show up in other frames.
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Eureka! I found one, not opposite but side by side sheepfoot and pen.
Would you believe! I forgot I had one all the time, bought in 2011 on AAPK for a couple dollars. Thanks Owd Willie. Camco Barlow with half stops and strong snap on both blades, probably 1960s.
A solid, well-made work knife but without the usual "Camillus" finishing. The saw cut scales/covers/handles/whatever don't feel smooth like delrin but also not bakelite ( 'let's see your camco knives' in Camillus sub-forum pg.2,3)
Thanks for all the great posts and awesome pictures.
Would you believe! I forgot I had one all the time, bought in 2011 on AAPK for a couple dollars. Thanks Owd Willie. Camco Barlow with half stops and strong snap on both blades, probably 1960s.
A solid, well-made work knife but without the usual "Camillus" finishing. The saw cut scales/covers/handles/whatever don't feel smooth like delrin but also not bakelite ( 'let's see your camco knives' in Camillus sub-forum pg.2,3)
Thanks for all the great posts and awesome pictures.