Old pick bone
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I believe all the below qualify.
Winchester Trademark Made in U.S.A.
Cattaraugus Cutlery Co. Little Valley N.Y. U.S.A.
Henry Sears & Son 1865 U.S.A.
New York Knife Co. Walden / Hammer Brand.
Winchester Trademark Made in U.S.A.
Cattaraugus Cutlery Co. Little Valley N.Y. U.S.A.
Henry Sears & Son 1865 U.S.A.
New York Knife Co. Walden / Hammer Brand.
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Barnett Tool HHH 1900-1915.
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Maher & Grosh Antique Yellow Pick Bone Boys Knife.
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For the most part certain brands can be dated by the bone, for example the second from the top would be considered early on in the lineage of the Press Button knife Co.s products as well as the smaller double end knife, later on the picked bone became more of a jigged type of look, here's some examples.
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Another link which is pertinent. It is referenced in the link which dlr110 provided on page 1 of this thread. It also talks about the changes with pocket wear, as Tongueriver brought up on the previous page.
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... ne#p188614
New York Knife Co. and Schrade are also two other examples of the use of pick bone on early knives (In addition to Press Button, mentioned above by wiseguy).
I think it is generally acknowledged that NYK knives with pick bone are considered to be early in the life of NYKC. Most of the NYK knives posted on here have the very distinctive NYK jigging, which is not pick bone.
Pick bone was used on the earlier Schrade knives as well. The photos below show Charlie C's (Upnorth) ideas on the progression of Schrade jigging. I didn't ask, but don't think he will mind me posting these here (they are actually posted in this link http://allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_f ... one#p95400.
Top left - pick bone
Top right - divot
Bottom left - basket weave
Bottom right - peach seed
Left - pick; Right - divot
As I said previously, I have no idea how far back pick bone goes, but, I believe that it was not used after the early 1920s? Just my opinion
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... ne#p188614
New York Knife Co. and Schrade are also two other examples of the use of pick bone on early knives (In addition to Press Button, mentioned above by wiseguy).
I think it is generally acknowledged that NYK knives with pick bone are considered to be early in the life of NYKC. Most of the NYK knives posted on here have the very distinctive NYK jigging, which is not pick bone.
Pick bone was used on the earlier Schrade knives as well. The photos below show Charlie C's (Upnorth) ideas on the progression of Schrade jigging. I didn't ask, but don't think he will mind me posting these here (they are actually posted in this link http://allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_f ... one#p95400.
Top left - pick bone
Top right - divot
Bottom left - basket weave
Bottom right - peach seed
Left - pick; Right - divot
As I said previously, I have no idea how far back pick bone goes, but, I believe that it was not used after the early 1920s? Just my opinion
Dan
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There are some nice knives shown on this thread. But I have to confess that I am somewhat confused about the definition of pick bone. The first two knives posted, Joe's Brantford Cutlery Co and Richard's Ulster, are more or less what I think of as pick bone. But if all the others are pick bone, then it seems to me that pick bone is just a synonym for jigged.
Mel
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I think "picked" was done by hand and "jigged " by machine from what I gathered
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Not 100% sure that I'm correct, but this is also my understanding.
David
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There are some really nice knives pictured here, and very informative posts, by all participants. Thanks!
Ike
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WOW !
y'all are killin' it with all these lovely knives
It seems the definition of 'pick bone' is as varied as the knives themselves ....
y'all are killin' it with all these lovely knives
It seems the definition of 'pick bone' is as varied as the knives themselves ....
Chris
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Exactly what most experienced collectors believe Mel. You know everybody has a view , but what they describe is different.Dinadan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:34 pm There are some nice knives shown on this thread. But I have to confess that I am somewhat confused about the definition of pick bone. The first two knives posted, Joe's Brantford Cutlery Co and Richard's Ulster, are more or less what I think of as pick bone. But if all the others are pick bone, then it seems to me that pick bone is just a synonym for jigged.
The consensus by vintage collectors of the term pickbone ( however it was made) is the type of handles below.
this is what very pocket worn pickbone looks like. Still visible are the darker hatching(?) that uderlies most all pickbone handles I've seen( can be seen in above scan). I suppose these were to increase grip, not just ascetics, being deeper than other divots on the bone handles.tongueriver wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:18 pm When the covers on a jigged bone knife get really pocket-worn, they look more and more like 'picked bone.' Just sayin'. They don't always start out looking like that.
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I really enjoy this discussion. I was thrown back into this by Lloyd posting a pickbone Ulster and a NYK. I have Walden , DE Empire, and a practically unused NYK FJ's.
On left-Walden Right DE Empire:
This is an example of pickbone without being pocket worn 4" NYK FJ: Please show your pickbones .
On left-Walden Right DE Empire:
This is an example of pickbone without being pocket worn 4" NYK FJ: Please show your pickbones .
I buy roosters combs and farmers..........................................................jack knives [/b]
GEC SFOs and others at LICK CREEK CUTLERY- www.allaboutpocketknives.com/wlf
May the Father and Son bless
Lyle
GEC SFOs and others at LICK CREEK CUTLERY- www.allaboutpocketknives.com/wlf
May the Father and Son bless
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Exactly what I think of as pick bone.wlf wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:57 pmExactly what most experienced collectors believe Mel. You know everybody has a view , but what they describe is different.Dinadan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:34 pm There are some nice knives shown on this thread. But I have to confess that I am somewhat confused about the definition of pick bone. The first two knives posted, Joe's Brantford Cutlery Co and Richard's Ulster, are more or less what I think of as pick bone. But if all the others are pick bone, then it seems to me that pick bone is just a synonym for jigged.
The consensus by vintage collectors of the term pickbone ( however it was made) is the type of handles below.
a pickbone.jpgthis is what very pocket worn pickbone looks like. Still visible are the darker hatching(?) that uderlies most all pickbone handles I've seen( can be seen in above scan). I suppose these were to increase grip, not just ascetics, being deeper than other divots on the bone handles.tongueriver wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:18 pm When the covers on a jigged bone knife get really pocket-worn, they look more and more like 'picked bone.' Just sayin'. They don't always start out looking like that.
:Ulster misspelled (5).JPG
David
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The knives I collect are an old and practically obsolete pattern, which lends many of them to pickbone handles.
I buy roosters combs and farmers..........................................................jack knives [/b]
GEC SFOs and others at LICK CREEK CUTLERY- www.allaboutpocketknives.com/wlf
May the Father and Son bless
Lyle
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Lots of nice pick bone above ... There's just something about pick bone that screams nice old bone ..
Here's one of my favorites - Holley Hawkbill Pruner - both mark and pile sides..
and a Miller Bros Small Rope knife with some pick bone jigging...
Here's one of my favorites - Holley Hawkbill Pruner - both mark and pile sides..
and a Miller Bros Small Rope knife with some pick bone jigging...
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Great looking old, historic knives! They have all been quality collector pieces.
Pocket, fixed, machete, axe, it's all good!
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