Case tested era green bone jigging look right?

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Case tested era green bone jigging look right?

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It’s a 06230 1/2 equal end cigar knife to me the jigging looks off for case so I’m looking for insite from professionals!
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i have this red bone stockman, stamped case tested xx.
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richard wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 1:17 am i have this red bone stockman, stamped case tested xx.
I'm not a professional, but I will reply anyway :) Starting with the Tested Red bone... It is highly, highly unusual to see a knife marked Tested XX in red bone. A person I consider very knowledgeable, and way older than me, once told me that a Tested XX red bone knife would always have a pattern number. The very few knives I have seen that I thought were right did have a pattern number. Does this example have a pattern number stamped on it?

I will also opine that any red bone Tested XX would originate closer to the beginning of the XX era ~1940. My basis for this belief is that leftover Tested XX parts like blades might get used on a knife with a XX frame and XX handles. So the fact that your knife has a XX style shield is good.

My initial impression of the picture is that the knife is highly questionable as a factory made knife in its current state.

I hope some other points of view will be contributed.
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Dgood187 wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 1:07 am It’s a 06230 1/2 equal end cigar knife to me the jigging looks off for case so I’m looking for insite from professionals!
Not sure about the rest of the knife but that’s not greenbone.

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RalphAlsip wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 1:36 am
richard wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 1:17 am i have this red bone stockman, stamped case tested xx.
I'm not a professional, but I will reply anyway :) Starting with the Tested Red bone... It is highly, highly unusual to see a knife marked Tested XX in red bone. A person I consider very knowledgeable, and way older than me, once told me that a Tested XX red bone knife would always have a pattern number. The very few knives I have seen that I thought were right did have a pattern number. Does this example have a pattern number stamped on it?

I will also opine that any red bone Tested XX would originate closer to the beginning of the XX era ~1940. My basis for this belief is that leftover Tested XX parts like blades might get used on a knife with a XX frame and XX handles. So the fact that your knife has a XX style shield is good.

My initial impression of the picture is that the knife is highly questionable as a factory made knife in its current state.

I hope some other points of view will be contributed.
no it has no pattern number, i to think it is a parts knife, but not recently made.they did not throw parts away in them days but reused them.for maybe a cut price, knife sale?
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Dgood187 wrote: Tue Dec 31, 2019 1:07 am It’s a 06230 1/2 equal end cigar knife to me the jigging looks off for case so I’m looking for insite from professionals!
The pattern number is actually 06230 (without the 1/2) because it has a Spear blade instead of a Clip blade. My instinct is that handles are factory handles. It could be a camera angle issue, but the shape of the pen blade as it nears the tip doesn't seem to taper to the tip like I would expect to see.

I hope other points of view will be contributed.
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Here are a couple that I have . The top knife is a 06245 and the lower is a 06230 1/2.The 45 is 3 5/8 inches closed while the 30 is 3 1/4 inches closed. How much a knife gets handled can change the look of original jigging quite a bit and the handles on the OP knife look look original to me with not much handling, as you can see the pen blades on both of these patterns from the tested era had a rather distinctive taper as Jerry noted so there may have been some tampering there although there were some rare versions with a spey blade and some with a sheepfoot blade so it's possible. I wouldn't call mine or the OP true greenbone, but more of what people call original bone.
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now here is totally wrong case knife. was made for me ,by a retired knife maker freind of mine. for my 60th birthday.from his work shop bench. parts drawer.a case xx 6 spot, new old stock blade, a new old stock ulster frame.and hand cut samba handles.he hand filed the back spring, and bolsters.
put it together. buffed and polished it.it is probably not worth much.other than to me.it only has 2 1/2 inch blade and it is 6 inch's overall lengh.
it walks talks. no wobble, and is razor sharp.
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Looks like a re-handled knife to me. Color and jigging certainly not the norm for a Case Tested knife. Pins look peened not spun. End pins look too large as well. Shield pins look bad as well.
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