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Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:46 pm
by AC Man
Ok, how is my question ? I didn’t get it thinking it was real but am curious on possibly it origin and why as some thought definitely went into making it. The D.R.P to me was an interesting add on a fake? No
Thx
AC

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:01 pm
by knife7knut
Posted this in the General Discussion forum and figured it would go here as well. A Robeson Shuredge Mk2 with original sheath. The blade is full and unfortunately some idiot decided a grinder was the way to sharpen it. Luckily the grind marks aren't too deep and are slowly being removed with the help of 220 grit wet-or-dry paper and Marvel Mystery Oil.I didn't have a Robeson in my accumulation and this one makes a nice addition;especially since it was only $10.
EDIT: Upon trying to do some research I am now questioning whether this knife is in fact a military item.Although it has all the appearance of a Mk2 the blade length is only 6 inches and I thought the Mk2's blades were at least 7 inches. It is stamped USA and not USN or USMC. Any thoughts on this? I'm not really well versed in military items.

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:32 pm
by EWMailman
Some items that were in an estate auction I recently conducted. Thought some of you may enjoy seeing them.

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:24 pm
by 1967redrider
Nice SA Dagger and bayonet with frog/hanger. There's a missing shield on the dagger but from your picture it looks authentic. Lots of reproductions of this knife out there, both new and old.

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:33 pm
by EWMailman
They were brought back from Europe after the war by the deceased person. He had a lot of other really interesting war related items that provided an opportunity to learn some new things.

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:14 pm
by Mossdancer
EWMailman :
You could do your knifing community a heck of a favor by letting it be known what the military knives at your auction sold for. There is such a fluctuation between real prices and those suggested by books and the net that determining what to list at is getting tougher by the week. If for some reason you decide not to show them that is okay also.
Thank you and God Bless,
moss

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:34 pm
by EWMailman
Mossdancer: Being somewhat new ( 8 mo. ) to AAPK, I am not certain of when I may be and do not want to be guilty of crossing the bounds of propriety regarding content of posts. Since you asked, I will be more than happy to share that information.

*SA Dagger missing shield and button---$350.00

*K98 Bayonet and scabbard with matching serial numbers---$130.00

Hope this is helpful

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:32 pm
by Mossdancer
Thanks: A bit low on the mauser Imo, The extras should have brought it up. Good price on the Dagger.
moss

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:53 pm
by New_Windsor_NY
Received this German WW2 pocket knife today. :D

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:10 pm
by Sonny-buck
This one brought back by my Dad from WWII. No sheath. The empty diamond shaped hole in the handle once held a red inset with a black swastkia. It fell out and was lost probably 50 years ago, dadgum it. 5” blade, total length 9”. Very well made. Can anybody point me to info on this model?
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Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:31 pm
by youngrik29
Sonny-buck wrote:This one brought back by my Dad from WWII. No sheath. The empty diamond shaped hole in the handle once held a red inset with a black swastkia. It fell out and was lost probably 50 years ago, dadgum it. 5” blade, total length 9”. Very well made. Can anybody point me to info on this model?
That is a Hitler Youth Knife. Below is a link to a site that I always find to be helpful for identification of military items of all nations (i.e., does not endorse or promote any ideology):

"The following markings were often found on the HJ weapons, especially the HJ Fuhrer daggers. They generally appeared above the RZM marking or the maker's mark with the RZM number below. They were indicative of the HJ Group Command in which the weapon was issued."

MilitaryItems.com
http://quanonline.com/military/military ... marks.html

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:43 am
by Rockingkj
Here is a Nicholes knife I owned for a short time. Was made during WW 2 but the man is it made for was in West Point and graduated after the war. Thus it does not have service number on it.
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Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:32 pm
by 1967redrider
That Indian Head nickel pommel cap is very cool, thanks for posting this knife.

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:57 pm
by kfields
Here's a knife I picked up at a flea market in 2018. From the research I've done, it appears to be one of the aluminum handled knives made by the Barteau Brothers in Oregon. When I saw it, it looked pretty sad and beat, sitting on the vendors blanket on the ground. But I noticed there was a name on the blade (I like named stuff) so I paid the sellers price of $7.
Later that summer I pulled the records and found out that the original owner served aboard the USS Vestel during the war. I also wrote to the owner (found and address on the internet) and figured I wouldn't get a response as there would have been a good chance he was deceased or wouldn't care to respond. But he did respond! In his letter, he said he did purchase the knife but someone had stole it out of his garage in 1945-46 after he returned from the war. Crazy!! He didn't want the knife back either. He died later that same year at the age of 93.
So here's the knife and sheath:
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Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:20 pm
by 1967redrider
Pretty wild story, if only knives could talk. ::nod::

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:39 pm
by doglegg
Excellent story.

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:31 pm
by ScoutKnives
Here is a pretty hard one to come by in unused condition . USMC Imperial WWII era I believe .

Thanks for looking ,
Mike

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:20 pm
by Miller Bro's
kfields wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:57 pm Here's a knife I picked up at a flea market in 2018. From the research I've done, it appears to be one of the aluminum handled knives made by the Barteau Brothers in Oregon. When I saw it, it looked pretty sad and beat, sitting on the vendors blanket on the ground. But I noticed there was a name on the blade (I like named stuff) so I paid the sellers price of $7.
Later that summer I pulled the records and found out that the original owner served aboard the USS Vestel during the war. I also wrote to the owner (found and address on the internet) and figured I wouldn't get a response as there would have been a good chance he was deceased or wouldn't care to respond. But he did respond! In his letter, he said he did purchase the knife but someone had stole it out of his garage in 1945-46 after he returned from the war. Crazy!! He didn't want the knife back either. He died later that same year at the age of 93.
So here's the knife and sheath:
Great knife and even better history ::tu::

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:15 pm
by 1967redrider
I forgot to post my most recent WWII pickup- the dog of all WWII fixed blades, the E.G.Waterman.
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More info on these thin splined knives, less than 1/8" thick-

https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums ... man-knife/

This one has a 7 1/2" long blade, the leather rings handle. It was definitely a WWII fighting knife wannabe.

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:25 am
by CarMan
ScoutKnives wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:31 pm Here is a pretty hard one to come by in unused condition . USMC Imperial WWII era I believe .

Thanks for looking ,
Mike
That’s beautiful. I will have one for my collection someday. It probably won’t be unused though. Great knife.

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 3:53 pm
by kfields
ScoutKnives wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:31 pm Here is a pretty hard one to come by in unused condition . USMC Imperial WWII era I believe .

Thanks for looking ,
Mike
Great pocketknife Mike! I'm also on the lookout for one of those. Kim

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:06 pm
by kfields
Here is another knife I purchased at a local flea market. The reason I bought it is because it was also named. The seller was from Pennsylvania and said he bought it at an estate sale there also.
This field made knife is named on one side of the blade: "Harry Adriance Jr U.S.A. (I presume for Army)", and on the part where the blade meets the crossguard: "Jan.11, 1945". There is something etched on the otherside but can't make it out.
I researched Mr. Adriance from Mainsburg, PA and lucked out in that his Army records were part of that very small piece of records that did not get burned up in the 1973 St Louis fire. He served with Company C, 398th Inf Reg, 100th Division and figure that some enterprising soldier made the knife for him in Europe.
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Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:45 am
by Miller Bro's
1967redrider wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:15 pm I forgot to post my most recent WWII pickup- the dog of all WWII fixed blades, the E.G.Waterman.
Looks to be in great condition John ::tu:: 8)

Re: U.S & German World War I & II Military Knives

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:43 am
by 1967redrider
Miller Bro's wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:45 am
1967redrider wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:15 pm I forgot to post my most recent WWII pickup- the dog of all WWII fixed blades, the E.G.Waterman.
Looks to be in great condition John ::tu:: 8)

Thanks, Dimitri. ::handshake::