Military watches

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Re: Military watches

Postby GerryD » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:49 am

This military watch was only 30sec + or - when it was new and I have serviced it and there were some issues and spare parts are hard if not impossible to find so you have to do the best you can. :D You also have to remember this was made around 1939 and I'm happy if its 2mins +- a day.
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Re: Military watches

Postby GerryD » Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:36 pm

This one of two Cortebert ATP watches I own. This one is interesting because the ATP marks have scores through them and the watch reissued the RAF some time during the WW2 or shortly after the end of hostilities. Its unlikely that any records exist now most being lost or destroyed after the war.
Like knives there are schools of thought to cleaning, I will do the minimum to get it working but leave its "patina" alone, I have resumes in the past but it never looks right to me.
This works now, it was bought as a non runner but I stripped and reoiled and fitted a new main spring.

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Re: Military watches

Postby GerryD » Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:38 pm

That should read "re lume" not resumes?

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Re: Military watches

Postby Miller Bro's » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:27 pm

15 jewels is a pretty good watch.
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Re: Military watches

Postby GerryD » Fri Jul 06, 2018 7:43 am

Dimitri
the 15 jewel movement was one of the specification for an ATP watch but there is one exception (theres always one) that had 17 jewels. Surprisingly though, shock absorbing balance wasn't one, bizarre, but of course there is another exception. The truth of the matter is the British army was desperate for watches and took anything that came from Switzerland.

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Re: Military watches

Postby Miller Bro's » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:54 pm

That's good to know, fact is over the years I have seen several of these old watches marked ATP and never knew what it meant. I did collect watches for a few years pocket and wrist watches, I never found any really valuable ones but I did like them and still wear old wrist watches on occasion.

I even bought out several boxes from a retired watch mechanic, lots of screws, crystals, etc. I haven't seen those boxes in over a decade! :shock: :lol:
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Re: Military watches

Postby GerryD » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:23 pm

Thought I would share my Christmas present from my son and daughter.
It's called a Reconvillia and as rare as hens teeth, this one was bought in the late 1940's when the army were getting rid of the old style watches in favour of the Dirty Dozen. Its in unworn condition with the original issue Pig skin one piece strap also as rare as hens teeth.
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Re: Military watches

Postby knife7knut » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:22 pm

Looking through this post I thought I remembered having such a watch in my pile of parts watches and the like and sure enough I did. Pulled the case back off and found it is a 15 jewel Bulova.Doesn't work though;the balance wheel doesn't seem to function;looks like it might be off the pivot points. The case is a bit corroded but the internals seem to be intact. Is it worth having it fixed? Case is stamped "Ord Dept- of 66320 -Bulova Watch Co" in three lines
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Re: Military watches

Postby GerryD » Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:59 am

I would say it is worth repairing but it all depends how much that's going to cost you. I've not got any Bulova but they are good watches and were issued via the USA ordinance dept. Can you take a photo without flask K7K? The numbers would then be legible and i suspect you would be able to get a clearer idea when it was issued.
I like the look of the watch and i would repair it. Since giving up collecting knives I've taught myself how to service and repair to a degree my military watches so if i can get the spares thats the only cost. A quick look on the UK eBay does reveal a market around £100 -200 but you will i suspect see higher retail prices.
The re-enactors is a good market if you decide to sell but I would wear it and see the reaction to an 80 odd year old watch that may have seen action.
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Re: Military watches

Postby GerryD » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:30 am

K7K I've just found this thread on MWR looks like its WWII and army ground forces http://www.mwrforum.net/forums/showthre ... PT-Watches

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Re: Military watches

Postby mrwatch » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:46 am

knife7knut wrote:Looking through this post I thought I remembered having such a watch in my pile of parts watches and the like and sure enough I did. Pulled the case back off and found it is a 15 jewel Bulova.Doesn't work though;the balance wheel doesn't seem to function;looks like it might be off the pivot points. The case is a bit corroded but the internals seem to be intact. Is it worth having it fixed? Case is stamped "Ord Dept- of 66320 -Bulova Watch Co" in three lines


You describe it having a broken balance staff. Common non shock jeweled movements.

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Re: Military watches

Postby mrwatch » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:52 am

I like!
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Re: Military watches

Postby mrwatch » Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:56 am

Here a couple, the Elgin fancy crystals are had to find. But I had them in stock.
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Re: Military watches

Postby knife7knut » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:25 am

GerryD wrote:K7K I've just found this thread on MWR looks like its WWII and army ground forces http://www.mwrforum.net/forums/showthre ... PT-Watches

OK I looked at this site and the case number on mine is OF 66320. Inside the waterproof case it is a 15 jewel movement marked 10 AK whatever that means. Not sure if it is broken or dislodged but the balance shaft(the thing with the spring on it) does not turn when the watch is shaken.
I am going to take it to my local jeweler who is into vintage watches and does a lot of repair work and get an estimate to repair it.
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Re: Military watches

Postby mrwatch » Tue Jan 29, 2019 2:56 pm

knife7knut wrote:
GerryD wrote:K7K I've just found this thread on MWR looks like its WWII and army ground forces http://www.mwrforum.net/forums/showthre ... PT-Watches

OK I looked at this site and the case number on mine is OF 66320. Inside the waterproof case it is a 15 jewel movement marked 10 AK whatever that means. Not sure if it is broken or dislodged but the balance shaft(the thing with the spring on it) does not turn when the watch is shaken.
I am going to take it to my local jeweler who is into vintage watches and does a lot of repair work and get an estimate to repair it.


10 AK refers to who actually made the movement for them.


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