Whats your newest addition to your Buck family and why?

Hoyt Buck produced the first Buck Knife in 1902. Hoyt and his son Al moved to San Diego and set up shop as H.H. Buck & Son in 1947. Al Buck revolutionized the knife industry in 1964 with the infamous Model 110 Folding Hunter. The company's innovative history and attention to quality have made for many great collectible knives.
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Re: Whats your newest addition to your Buck family and why?

Post by Colonel26 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:39 am

Here is my story. I copied it from the post I made on the Chinese knife forum in response to a question from Old Hunter. Here's the copied portion.

OH, I think I can help you out here.

Disclaimer: I don't buy chicom knives or shotguns personally but I wound up with one anyway

Now that that's out of the way so I don't get flamed, let me explain. I don't know about the exact two that you mention, but I can tell you about the differences between the 301 USA stockman and the 371 China stockman. My wife gets me and the boys identical knives every year for Christmas. After hearing me talk about Buck quality and reading their company philosophy she decided that this past Christmas it would be Buck instead of Case as usual, fine by me. She didn't know that they had a chicom line so she bought what she thought was a good deal on a large stockman, the 371. I was a little disappointed at first, but since it was a gift and it was from the wife I decided to pack it edc for a while and give it an honest shakedown (I was curious too). Fit and finish were great, the springs were great, it was sharp right out of the box, and I couldn't knock the product at all. I carried it, I used it and it was a fine knife. The edge held up well for stainless and it resharpened easily. As a matter of fact it was so good that I thought the USA version had to be perfect so I bought one. Not so great.

The springs on the USA version were weak, the nail nicks looked like they had been chiseled out there were so many tool marks in them, and the blades just looked rough. I was far from impressed. Other than having slightly better metal the USA version was a looser all the way around. So I sent an email to Buck. I told them very politely point by point why the USA version was inferior to the chicom knife. I ended by telling them how saddened I was that this was the case that the USA version of their own knife wasn't as good as the communist Chinese version.

A couple of days later the head of US manufacturing for Buck emailed wanting to speak to me. I called him back and he addressed each issue point by point telling me where they had messed up on each item of my list. He had been to China to help set up Buck's plant over there and to teach them how to build knives to Buck's specifications. He told me that you are more likely to get an unsatisfactory US knife than a Chinese knife because they can afford to simply throw them away if they aren't perfect whereas in the US they cannot afford to do so unless they are really bad. He told me that he's seen them throw away knives that he would have to sell.

In the end they made me a new 301 special in his words just to show me what they could really build. He sent it to me no questions asked and simply told me to send him the bad one when I got around to it so they could study it. He also had me send in all my other Buck knives for their spa treatment at no charge too! My new 371 is one of the best quality knives I own and I don't even like stainless. It is an amazing knife.

Moral of the story, as a product the Chicom knife will probably be a very good one but not have as good metal as the USA version. The USA version will be a good knife as long as it wasn't made on Monday morning or Friday afternoon. If you do get one that is unsatisfactory, Buck will make it right. If the chicom version had the metal in it that the USA version has, they'd put the USA version out of business. And that hurts me to say that.
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Re: Whats your newest addition to your Buck family and why?

Post by garddogg56 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:04 am

huh ,that an interesting story,at least they took care of you ,now on the other hand I've never had a problem with a Buck knife but then I only buy what I can touch Never by mail I own one china Buck( long story) and I won't give it pocket time just feels cheep .I keep it only because it was a gift or I would donate it to the Salvation Army ::shrug::
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Re: Whats your newest addition to your Buck family and why?

Post by Colonel26 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:17 pm

The quality of my 301 rivals any of the newer knives I own and surpasses many of what should be premium brands. I love the one I have now. The first one not so much. I'd take my Buck 301 any day over my Queen "premium" Stockman.

I guess it was just the luck of the draw on that first one.
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Re: Whats your newest addition to your Buck family and why?

Post by garddogg56 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:07 am

Colonel It's a crap shoot at times ::shrug:: My favorite is a Camillus made cadet I want to get a new 301 and a solitare in yeller ::nod::
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Re: Whats your newest addition to your Buck family and why?

Post by Colonel26 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:32 am

Do you have one of the newer style 301's with the triple back springs? I really like it, not having the blades canted, and man is it smooth. It's much smoother than some of my much more expensive knives.
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Re: Whats your newest addition to your Buck family and why?

Post by garddogg56 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:39 am

Don't have one yet my 303 is made by Camillus1974 and is a great knife I hope not to get disapointed in the newer 301's
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Post by garddogg56 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:51 am

here are some of my more modern new additions to my Buck family ::groove:: I have Caleb to thank for the Avid ::handshake::
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Post by 313 Mike » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:34 pm

I've got a 2004 Buck usa 301 with the three backsprings and it is turning out to be a great knife, gets smoother the more I use it...definititely a winner in my book. The more I carry it the more I like it....

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Re: Whats your newest addition to your Buck family and why?

Post by Just Plain Dave » Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:29 am

I have an unknown year 303 USA (Likely mid 2000) that a buddy gave me. I have never really gone for the sort of grind Buck puts on these.

I can't get it to slice paper QUITE as well as some other knives, but it is reasonably sharp.

A little fat with the three backsprings.....

Slant bolsters are kinda nice....
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Post by garddogg56 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:19 am

I've been heming and hawing over a watch-pocket knife for work ::shrug:: been going between a 55 or a 503 so the winner is :shock:
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Re: Whats your newest addition to your Buck family and why?

Post by Old Hunter » Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:46 am

Had a bit of a dry spell recently, been tied up vacationing (working!) and with real work. Finally stopped by an antique & collectibles store I have been driving past for years - the guy had a decent selection of knives - picked up this pre-86 Buck 303. I can check that one off my list - an older 303 has been on it for awhile. Got a decent price per looking over e-bay - right in the average, but this one is now in my pocket. I like the fact that it is nearly new, but not mint - don't have to do the "should I EDC it or should I preserve it" debate!
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Post by garddogg56 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:34 am

MAN OH thats clean ::woot::
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Post by Just Plain Dave » Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:00 am

Someday I GOTTA get me one of them older flat ground Bucks!!!
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Re: Whats your newest addition to your Buck family and why?

Post by Old Hunter » Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:24 am

Dogg, I'm pretty excited about this find - a bucket list knife - looking forward to adding it to my EDC rotation.

Mike, I'm with you - the modern Buck blade grind doesn't do a thing for my sense of style. I do plan to add one with yellow handles to my collection, both to support Buck and to have a modern Buck mfg example, probably go with a 301 for that knife whenever I add it. Variations is what makes this collecting hobby so interesting (fun) to me.

The other feature I like about the old model 303 is the fact that it is built with two springs instead of the three springs Buck uses on the new models - more classic in my opinion.
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Re: Whats your newest addition to your Buck family and why?

Post by Colonel26 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:03 am

That's a dandy OH! I like the looks of it a lot. What size are those 303 bucks?

I love my new 301, especially the three back springs. No it isn't traditional, and I'm usually a sucker for traditional, but it's just so smooth and works so good. I got the dyamond wood. Get one I predict you'll fall in love.

But those pics surely do give me a hankering for o e of them 303's.
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