did I buy a fake?

The Queen Cutlery Company has been manufacturing knives in Titusville Pennsylvania for over 100 years. The company opened its factory in 1902 and continues to produce knives in the same way now as they did in their earliest years.
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did I buy a fake?

Post by flynbulldog » Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:40 am

I just purchased, but have yet to receive, a Queen City mother of pearl gunstock with a single clip point blade - etched on the blade is "1 of 100 2004"
But I cant find any information on this knife - I checked the archive catalogs for 2004 and it isn't there.

I got this on ebay it didnt have any bids on it so I bid the minimum and forgot about it. Next thing I know I won the thing - the fact that nobody else bid on it makes me wonder if I'm not seeing the reason no one else wanted it.

Anyone have any information on it for me?
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Re: did I buy a fake?

Post by kris_kross » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:04 pm

Looks good to me, box and all, I've never seen a fake queen so pretty sure it's real.

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Re: did I buy a fake?

Post by Eye Brand Man » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:49 pm

kris_kross wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:04 pm
Looks good to me, box and all, I've never seen a fake queen so pretty sure it's real.
I agree.
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Re: did I buy a fake?

Post by cody6268 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:44 pm

Who knows. I suspect there may be some floating around now that were assembled from leftover parts when the factory closed.

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Re: did I buy a fake?

Post by flynbulldog » Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:56 pm

I've never seen a single blade gunstock - every one I've ever seen has been 2 or 3 blades and why did nobody bid on this? I bought it cheap. I just realized this knife is way before the Daniels family ran/owned queen. What was the quality and desirability of their knives before Daniels? any ideas?

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Post by edge213 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:21 pm

cody6268 wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:44 pm
Who knows. I suspect there may be some floating around now that were assembled from leftover parts when the factory closed.
I think you may be on to something regarding this knife. But I'm no Queen expert.
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Re: did I buy a fake?

Post by treefarmer » Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:15 pm

flynbulldog,
My son found me a S&M with wooden handles, an equal end, like a Moose, clip on one end and the spay on the other. Nice looking knife but a pattern that didn't ring a bell with anyone here on the forum. The tang of the clip on the pile side has a "QDFC" stamp, the mark side has the S&M logo over Titusville PA.. The spay has the full names, SCHATT & MORGAN on it's tang.
All this added up to a knife that was probably assembled with pieces and parts when the Queen inventory was sold. The knife looks good, is solid in every way. It's a real knife and probably a "fake" at the same time. Had I been looking for an EDC, this would have interested me but S&M is, as I once said, a little above my paygrade. :)
Ain't she pretty?  Probably a fake.
Ain't she pretty? Probably a fake.
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Please excuse the quality of the pictures, a bit blurry.
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Re: did I buy a fake?

Post by 1967redrider » Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:48 pm

The OP knife is PH-D2, a great knife steel. ::tu::
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Post by 1967redrider » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:12 pm

Tree, I've seen similar stamping recently, Queen and S&M collaborations.
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Re: did I buy a fake?

Post by flynbulldog » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:30 pm

I have seen other knives with both the Queen logo and Schatt and Morgan, in fact I was just looking in the SM for sale section earlier today and I believe I saw one there. Queen did make SM knives for several years so it makes sense that QDFC would be there. I dont think that knife is a fake or made from parts.

I found that pattern a couple of times in the queen catalog, its a 66BEM special muskrat. I'd bet if you look long enough you will find that SM made one too.
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Re: did I buy a fake?

Post by flynbulldog » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:01 pm

I wanted to wrap this thread up. I received the knife today and it is definitely not a fake or made from parts. Wow, I am so impressed with this MOP gunstock, the fit, finish, and craftsmanship is spectacular. Those pictures do it no justice, the knife is in perfect condition and the overall presentation is exceptional - its a true gentleman's knife. I really got lucky on this auction because I think the knife is worth double what I paid for it and had I seen this in person I probably would have paid double for it.

Thanks for reading the thread guys and if anybody comes across any literature on this knife please post it here. I keep a written record of every knife in my collection and would love to have an official reference on it.

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