S&M Etching Confusion

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S&M Etching Confusion

Post by Atomic Rooster 57 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:17 pm

Greetings,

I'm new around here and still getting the lay of the land. I'm also green when it comes to pocket knife collecting which initiates this query.

I'm looking at purchasing a S&M Whittler but I don't understand the secondary blade etchings on Schatt and Morgan folders. Could someone please bring me up to sped as to what these numbers indicate? Thank you kindly.
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Re: S&M Etching Confusion

Post by Railsplitter » Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:00 pm

Howdy Bud. Welcome to the forum!

I don't have a very good pic but if you're referring to the numbers above "2005" in my picture, that's a pretty good question. I've always assumed it was some kind of skew number but I really don't know now that you mentioned it.

I don't think it's a pattern number because I have Railsplitters that have similar numbers and the pattern number for those is 63 which isn't anywhere in those numbers.

Anyway, I just wanted to provide a picture so folks can see what you're referring to. (click to enlarge)
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Re: S&M Etching Confusion

Post by Railsplitter » Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:28 pm

Railsplitter wrote:I don't think it's a pattern number because I have Railsplitters that have similar numbers and the pattern number for those is 63 which isn't anywhere in those numbers.
The statement above is incorrect. :oops: I just double checked and the last two numbers on my Railsplitters is in fact 63.
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Re: S&M Etching Confusion

Post by Atomic Rooster 57 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:18 pm

Railsplitter wrote:
Railsplitter wrote:I don't think it's a pattern number because I have Railsplitters that have similar numbers and the pattern number for those is 63 which isn't anywhere in those numbers.
The statement above is incorrect. :oops: I just double checked and the last two numbers on my Railsplitters is in fact 63.
Thanks, I'm referring to these Railsplitter
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Re: S&M Etching Confusion

Post by jerryd6818 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:44 pm

Welcome to AAPK. Glad to have you aboard.

Similar to (but not exactly like) the numbers stamped on the tang of a Great Eastern knife, those numbers identify the knife.

The numbers on your knife -- 043 046 stand for:
Handle material - 04 bone
# of blades - 3
Main blade - 0 Wharncliffe
Knife pattern - 46 ?? What? Whittler?

As you can see below, I ran out of steam and haven't finished the chart. Left click on the image to enlarge it.
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Re: S&M Etching Confusion

Post by Atomic Rooster 57 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:36 pm

jerryd6818 wrote:Welcome to AAPK. Glad to have you aboard.

The numbers on your knife -- 043 046 stand for:
Handle material - 04 bone
# of blades - 3
Main blade - 0 Wharncliffe
Knife pattern - 46 ?? What? Whittler?
Thanks Jerry. I've never collected anything but over the decades Ive amassed a drawer full of past EDC's. Some of which I like a heap.

Yes, I guess, 46 is the designation for a whittler. The knife Im looking at is what Case calls Seahorse Whittler, with a Warncliff, coping, and Pen Blades. Do you suppose different Whittler patterns have individual numbers?

I find all this minutia surrounding this hobby educational and captivating Jerry. Not to mention my attraction to blades from childhood indicates I'm in big trouble....lol
Thank you for your support.

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